RE: The Case for Atheism
October 19, 2014 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2014 at 10:49 pm by AceBoogie.)
This is an interesting thread. However there is something inherently wrong with the original post.... Once there is an actually factual basis for an argument that SUPPORTS the existence of a god or gods, then and only then will there be a necessity for this forum to exist. However there's some really cool posts in here and I enjoy reading through it all.
As for the arguments regarding the view of naturalism... To me it makes complete sense in my mind that everything arises from natural causes or phenomena. However just because it makes sense to one person does not make it true. I think, however, that even though to some people things cannot be explained, that does not simply make those things supernatural. As of yet, there is no proof behind any claims of supernatural phenomena, as I know of (if someone would like to show me such proof I'd be happy to see it) so if one is too choose between a supernaturalist worldview and a naturalist worldview, assuming that these are the only two worldview choices, I think it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that the logical choice is to assume the position of the naturalist.
I simply see no necessity to explain things with 'god' or magical forces, I don't understand what this inherent need is for people to explain things by something OTHER THAN nature. I suppose it's possible that it's a need to make things exciting or more interesting, or maybe because the existence of supernatural phenomena can possibly support evidence for god or some sort of deity.... I'm not sure. But TO ME things just ARE... and attempting to provide some crazy explanation for things is just childish and possibly dangerous.
As for the arguments regarding the view of naturalism... To me it makes complete sense in my mind that everything arises from natural causes or phenomena. However just because it makes sense to one person does not make it true. I think, however, that even though to some people things cannot be explained, that does not simply make those things supernatural. As of yet, there is no proof behind any claims of supernatural phenomena, as I know of (if someone would like to show me such proof I'd be happy to see it) so if one is too choose between a supernaturalist worldview and a naturalist worldview, assuming that these are the only two worldview choices, I think it's pretty obvious, at least to me, that the logical choice is to assume the position of the naturalist.
I simply see no necessity to explain things with 'god' or magical forces, I don't understand what this inherent need is for people to explain things by something OTHER THAN nature. I suppose it's possible that it's a need to make things exciting or more interesting, or maybe because the existence of supernatural phenomena can possibly support evidence for god or some sort of deity.... I'm not sure. But TO ME things just ARE... and attempting to provide some crazy explanation for things is just childish and possibly dangerous.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll