RE: Measles Outbreak at Vaccine-Denying Church
August 27, 2013 at 10:16 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2013 at 10:18 pm by Mystical.)
(August 26, 2013 at 11:10 pm)Drich Wrote:(August 26, 2013 at 10:51 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Atheists have bad days, bad weeks, bad months, bad years, too, and the trouble we experience as a part of life does not make us run to your magical sky daddy. Rather than resort to prayer that does not work, we actually attempt to better our lives proactively.No Spicoli, you don't get it.
I am saying if you do not think you would ask God to spare your life when face with a terrible disease like aids, I am asking you to allow me to pray that God strike you down with aids, cancer or whatever it takes for you to beg and or grovel for your life. Why?To simply prove the point that there are no atheist when you are staring down the barrel of eternity. That is how I know those 'elite controllers' were healed. Because I know they prayed. Even the ones who thought they were atheist.
I'm not just talking about " a bad day, week, month, or even year." Again the offer is if you think you can, you will stand firm in your beliefs and not beg for mercy/life just say the word, and I will ask God to infect you with something or place you in a situation where you can find out for yourself.
Not a terrible life. A deadly disease. Or to be put in a life and death situation. There is nothing I am offering to do for you that I have not already prayed for myself. In that, a long time ago I asked God to do whatever it took, even if it meant my life, to help me see and understand Him. I now offer that on your behalf for you. Not as a curse but an opportunity to not only know yourself, but in the journey to get to know God.
For he who cherishes his life above all else will loose it. And he who forsakes his life for Christ will gain eternal life.
Just know I generally get what I pray for.
Ohhh Drich. I know I'm late to the party here, but.. Fuck if I don't have a thing or two to say about this.
First off: Pray for me. Pray hard and long. Pray that I'm taken the fuck down with yet another deadly disease, sir. Do it.
Secondly, I've looked down that barrel many a time, and I have to say that actually doing that, is what made me an athiest.
But hey, what do I know eh? I'm just another human being with an opposing viewpoint to yours, based on my own testimony of my own experiences.
You'll just toss me out of your considerations won't you? I'd like to refer you to this little gem, written on the walls of a concentration camp.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.