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Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 2:38 am
I hope you don't mind all these posts it's just I have not many people to talk to about it....and I have lots to share
Same church different event. My friends church had a children's service in another room,I went with because I figured time would go by faster.
some highlights:
1. They talked about Samuel and his birth and his mother Hannah praying for a child
2.they talked about how God talked to Samuel and how it's different then how God talks to us today. the woman leading the group said "The world calls it your conscience but it's really the voice of God..
She went on to how you can hear the voice of God,by reading your Bible and praying.
Sometimes I wonder where the voice of God is in the most devastating circumstances. And what about sociopaths? or people who seem to have no conscience is that just Satan?
3. One of the kids said(when asked about a story they heard in the bible) they said "Like the land of the lost?" and she said no this is real,all the stuff that happened in the Bible was real.
anyway this just was in my head today
just seeing the kids and being taught about the God above. and these different things. they have thing little bracelets that say P.U.S.H(pray until something happens)
comments? questions? did this even make sense?
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 2:52 am
Quote:One of the kids said(when asked about a story they heard in the bible) they said "Like the land of the lost?" and she said no this is real,all the stuff that happened in the Bible was real.
The kid is smarter than the teacher. He'll go far unless he starts listening to them.
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 2:57 am
(June 25, 2013 at 2:52 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:One of the kids said(when asked about a story they heard in the bible) they said "Like the land of the lost?" and she said no this is real,all the stuff that happened in the Bible was real.
The kid is smarter than the teacher. He'll go far unless he starts listening to them.
I agree!
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 3:23 am
What age group were they. I've taught older children, actually youth. They IMO would be easier to teach than small children, I know my wife found it to be harder. Their little minds work in such a wonderful yet difficult way, one must go easy on how much they can absorb at one time.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 6:45 am
The type of questions you had, were similar to the ones I asked that got me kicked out of Sunday School.
Pray until something happens?? What a crock!
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 1:41 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 2:38 am)k2490 Wrote: I hope you don't mind all these posts it's just I have not many people to talk to about it....and I have lots to share
Same church different event. My friends church had a children's service in another room,I went with because I figured time would go by faster.
some highlights:
1. They talked about Samuel and his birth and his mother Hannah praying for a child
2.they talked about how God talked to Samuel and how it's different then how God talks to us today. the woman leading the group said "The world calls it your conscience but it's really the voice of God..
She went on to how you can hear the voice of God,by reading your Bible and praying.
Sometimes I wonder where the voice of God is in the most devastating circumstances. And what about sociopaths? or people who seem to have no conscience is that just Satan?
3. One of the kids said(when asked about a story they heard in the bible) they said "Like the land of the lost?" and she said no this is real,all the stuff that happened in the Bible was real.
anyway this just was in my head today
just seeing the kids and being taught about the God above. and these different things. they have thing little bracelets that say P.U.S.H(pray until something happens)
comments? questions? did this even make sense?
According to christian theology, their god is all knowing and all powerful. I think prayer is futile, since in essence, people are trying to gain favor or perhaps change fate. According to most sheep I have talked to, they say that all is predetermined, so prayer is futile. Unless of course, you pray for what is supposedly determined to happen.
Then again, those children have not probably entered cancer wards for children and witnessed all the unanswered prayers for those children dying. Nor have those children been exposed to famine or extreme suffering and all the unanswered prayers there. Those bracelets are useless in the above mentioned places. But I guess ignorance is bliss.
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 1:51 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 2:38 am)k2490 Wrote: I hope you don't mind all these posts it's just I have not many people to talk to about it....and I have lots to share
Same church different event. My friends church had a children's service in another room,I went with because I figured time would go by faster.
some highlights:
1. They talked about Samuel and his birth and his mother Hannah praying for a child
2.they talked about how God talked to Samuel and how it's different then how God talks to us today. the woman leading the group said "The world calls it your conscience but it's really the voice of God..
She went on to how you can hear the voice of God,by reading your Bible and praying.
Sometimes I wonder where the voice of God is in the most devastating circumstances. And what about sociopaths? or people who seem to have no conscience is that just Satan?
3. One of the kids said(when asked about a story they heard in the bible) they said "Like the land of the lost?" and she said no this is real,all the stuff that happened in the Bible was real.
anyway this just was in my head today
just seeing the kids and being taught about the God above. and these different things. they have thing little bracelets that say P.U.S.H(pray until something happens)
comments? questions? did this even make sense?
Sad is about all you can say. Most of our species history involves humans indoctrinating their youth into a cultural superstition because it is easier to sell a comforting lie than to teach a kid to think for themselves. I wouldn't limit this criticism to Christianity, but more to our species defaulting to willful ignorance.
Evolution isn't about getting facts right, all that is required is to make a baby. The ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years centered around the false belief that the sun was a thinking deity.
Science as method has only been widely on the map for a short period of time. It is going to take a long time to undue the superstitious memes humans pass down to the youth of the planet. The good part is the more media spreads and technology improves the less dependent people are on superstition.
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 4:20 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 3:23 am)Godschild Wrote: What age group were they. I've taught older children, actually youth. They IMO would be easier to teach than small children, I know my wife found it to be harder. Their little minds work in such a wonderful yet difficult way, one must go easy on how much they can absorb at one time.
Yeah - G-C. There is a limit to how much bullshit you can cram into their little ears. Must be terribly frustrating for you.
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 6:45 am)festive1 Wrote: The type of questions you had, were similar to the ones I asked that got me kicked out of Sunday School.
Pray until something happens?? What a crock!
No shit. Something always happens, either good or bad, but eventually the ultimate bad will happen to us all, between life and death everyone has a range of both good and bad happen to them, some more or less than others.
I especially hate it in sports and entertainment and wealth when people thank a god. Really? With all the bad shit this selective deadbeat doesn't stop, like childhood death from disease and famine and war worldwide, you'd think if such an all powerful god existed, it would be better PR for this deity to reduce it or never have it happen in the first place. But who cares right, he certainly should care more about your personal success than say, some starving kid.
It never occurs to a believer that a god does not exist, and the only way we can reduce human suffering is to STUDY the reasons why conditions are bad for some people and work to reduce it rather than simply cross your fingers(pray to the non existent).
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RE: Church update:children's church
June 25, 2013 at 5:15 pm
(June 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (June 25, 2013 at 6:45 am)festive1 Wrote: The type of questions you had, were similar to the ones I asked that got me kicked out of Sunday School.
Pray until something happens?? What a crock!
No shit. Something always happens, either good or bad, but eventually the ultimate bad will happen to us all, between life and death everyone has a range of both good and bad happen to them, some more or less than others.
I especially hate it in sports and entertainment and wealth when people thank a god. Really? With all the bad shit this selective deadbeat doesn't stop, like childhood death from disease and famine and war worldwide, you'd think if such an all powerful god existed, it would be better PR for this deity to reduce it or never have it happen in the first place. But who cares right, he certainly should care more about your personal success than say, some starving kid.
It never occurs to a believer that a god does not exist, and the only way we can reduce human suffering is to STUDY the reasons why conditions are bad for some people and work to reduce it rather than simply cross your fingers(pray to the non existent).
my thoughts exactly
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