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The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic
(February 13, 2014 at 11:12 pm)Rational AKD Wrote: and I already answered that objection here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-21312.html

I do remember. Perhaps you remember me from that thread. I found your "logical" arguments as unconvincing then as I do now.

Quote:no, it is not a bare assertion to state the concept of God includes omnipotence.
It isn't with me, as I already told you. "God" is at best a nebulously defined concept, different for each person who believes.

Quote:I didn't...
Yes, you did. It's as unconvincing as "Since Yahweh is the basis on which we judge morality, then everything he does is moral". Such contrived definitions used to prove their own assertions is inevitably circular. "We know that Yahweh is good because he is the basis on which we define what is good. And we know he is the basis on which we define what is good because he is good."

In the case of your argument, it boils down to "We define Yahweh as omnipotent. Therefore he must exist because otherwise he wouldn't be omnipotent, would he?"

Now is this the best you can do?
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: The Modal Ontological Argument - Without Modal Logic - by DeistPaladin - February 14, 2014 at 12:04 am

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