God's self esteem and the human free will : NO FORCED CONVERSION WITH THE SWORD

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pocaracas

He knows that people will probably judge prophets as mad.

( 7 ) And they say, "What is this messenger that eats food and walks in the markets? Why was there not sent down to him an angel so he would be with him a warner?
( 8 ) Or [why is not] a treasure presented to him [from heaven], or does he [not] have a garden from which he eats?" And the wrongdoers say, "You follow not but a man affected by magic." Page 360, Quran.

And what comes after? The fact that people could tell this back then only comes to show that people weren't all as dumb as we, today, like to paint them...
When you look at it properly, all the classical greek and roman authors and philosophers were quite smart.

Anyway, what comes after? What's the reasoned argument that defeats this objection, according to the book?

The whole deal is that I mentioned before : life is a test. Is what you have mentioned, pocaracas, derived from logical thinking or from inner ego ? I say it's your ego.

You say wrong.
Logical thinking is independent of ego.

Just like the Church when it burned people who said earth is round. It's the inner human ego that says "who are these worthless scum to come tell us what to do or believe in ? they're human just like us ! LIARS ! ".

False analogy... or maybe you prefer "Strawman".

( 24 ) And said, "Is it one human being among us that we should follow? Indeed, we would then be in error and madness.
( 25 ) Has the message been sent down upon him from among us? Rather, he is an insolent liar." Page 529, the Quran.

Still, acknowledgement of the problem does not mean it's solved.

About the geographical locations, Islam was always meant to be an international message ; to all humans.

No it wasn't.
It was meant to the people in or around the arabian peninsula.

Also, why make it arab? A language which is extremely difficult to translate to any other keeping the meaning (and multiple meanings) intact?

Why not make things the proper and right way?

Even the extremists of extremists believe that if somebody didn't read about islam or got the message in the wrong fashion, god will judge him, nobody can say either he/she would go to hell !

It's the same thing for every abrahamic religion, you know?... Kind of like they were all made up around the same story, but then each put in a few local details. Just enough to set it apart... just enough to justify invading the opponent's territory... just enough for WAR!

God is fair. He's not like our governments & human judges.

And how, pray tell, do you know that?
First, that "god is".
Second, that "god is fair".

The government thing... well... they do attempt to apply justice, but the maxim of "innocent until proven guilty" does allow some actual wrongdoers from sustaining their just penalty. As all human systems, it is an imperfect system, one that attempts to minimize the injustice.