RE: Muslim Atheism
July 31, 2014 at 8:11 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2014 at 8:20 am by Muslim Atheism.)
(July 31, 2014 at 7:39 am)vodkafan Wrote: Likewise, your quran also carries no weight.
Huh? We are discussing about the ideology in the Quran, the Constitution. .
Of course it is highly relevant and carries weight to this thread.
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(July 31, 2014 at 7:39 am)vodkafan Wrote: Nor your religious observation of fasting.
Fasting is not from the Quran . . there is no fasting.
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(July 31, 2014 at 7:39 am)vodkafan Wrote: Why would I seek to prove anything by verses from the quran ? It proves nothing and is relevant to nothing.
Because this thread is about Muslim Atheism. .
Muslim are those who follow the Quran. (refer here and here)
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(July 31, 2014 at 7:39 am)vodkafan Wrote: As other posters have observed, you reject everyone else's life experiences as irrelevant and yet consider your own to be true and profound.
What their life experiences got to do with premises from the Quran ?
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(July 31, 2014 at 7:39 am)vodkafan Wrote: You keep coming back saying that allah created everything...and yet you have stated that allah does not exist, that there are no gods...you can't have it both ways, do you believe in allah or not? Yes or no?
Allah is Oneness, Absolute and no boundary . . . how can I disbelieve in that ?
What I disbelieve is the idea that associated with Allah
no one knows. . .none is equal to Allah, matter, idea and concept
the difference between Allah that people imagined, and Allah that truly exists. . .
and Allah only exists when I have "No God"
but the problem is "I am God". . . therefore, there is "No Allah"
Unless and until I have "No God", there is "No Allah". . . .
(June 23, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Premise 1: No god (0)
(July 30, 2014 at 10:30 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote:Desire
Product of Conventional Theism and Atheism
(The Animal Mind, Phenomenal Self, Egoic Consciousness)
(e.g. people got angry when they are hurt, or hungry. . and even kill others etc)
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Conscious Mind
(The Intellectual Mind, Scientist)
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Subconscious Mind
(Enlightenment)
(not yet reached the "Heart" because no "Oneness" with life as a whole)
(ie. both good and evil as "One". . therefore, no balance, only "goodness" and it is not "life/reality")
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Heart
Oneness
Good and Evil as One
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Soul
No God
Reality
(by the way, that's what the Quran says)