(October 30, 2014 at 4:10 pm)alpha male Wrote:(October 30, 2014 at 3:02 pm)Losty Wrote: Absolutely no one ever needs to rape anyone ever regardless of how they interpret the bibleI agree.
Quote:I'm so happy for you that your wife enjoys sex with you. I'm so happy for her that you enjoy sex the way she enjoys it.Me too.
Quote:Read the verse jackass. Not that the true sickos don't just stop reading before that anyways. The only consent required in the verse is for time. So once you have free time your spouse is biblically permitted to smash your face into the headboard and violently rape you while blood pours down your face onto the sheets. Because your body doesn't belong to you and god doesn't give a shit if you like sex like that. It's disgusting.Except, that's not about the Bible. That's about the husband being a true sicko. It's not like a loving husband got to that verse and began violently raping his wife. A man who would do those things would have done them with or without that verse.
Quote:Why do you make this assumption that all Christians are good people? You can easily adhere to that verse and justifiably rape your spouse just because you want to.There's more to the Bible than that verse. There are passages that say a man should love his wife to the point of giving his life for her if necessary. A man like you describe would ignore those passages.
Quote:Let's say a woman is waiting in heels and lingerie for her husband, because like a good little wife she wants to please him. Let's say when he sees her he lifts her up by her throat and slams her into the wall, rips off her lingerie, and takes her violently all the while she is is begging him not to hurt her. Let's say she's not into that stuff and her pleas are genuine. Her husband hasn't broken any rules according to that verse.Again, the Bible says more regarding marriage than that verse.
Eph 5
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
The violent scenarios you give aren't reconcilable with this passage.
You're missing the point. I'm saying I hate the verse because bad people use it to justify rape. I hate it because good (albeit misguided) people are lead to believe that they have no choice but to allow their spouses to rape them because of this verse. It doesn't matter how you think it should be used. It doesn't matter if it's meant to be used for that. It only matters that it is used for precisely that. I hate the verse. It makes me sick.
