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Obesity: five facts
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RE: Obesity: five facts
(November 25, 2014 at 1:54 am)Aractus Wrote:
(November 24, 2014 at 11:53 pm)psychoslice Wrote: Maybe their a bit backward like you, and haven't got the intelligence to know better, you would have to be living under a giant pretzel not to know about sugars and fats. MMmmm pretzel.
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The advice they were given by health professionals since the 1970's was fundamental flawed. And the reason why grains got to be such a big portion of the food pyramid is because of lobby groups that represented the corn and other grains industry and lobbied the USA government to make grains the staple of the diet, instead of say vegetables. All other health guides - Japan, Australia, UK, etc, all used the USA food pyramid as their basis.

As to your comment that I'm "backwards" - I think you have to carefully consider your position. I changed my position based on recent research done by the experts. I changed it when I found out that hormones control hunger - a fact that wasn't known in the 1970's, when the outdated guides to healthy eating were made.

Even today the advice isn't clear enough, not at all. In a previous TV campaign here in Australia it was called "Swap It, Don't Stop It" - in my view that advice was dead wrong: to prevent obesity requires permanent improvements in lifestyle and particularly in eating habits. Instead the campaign used the wrong advice that's been given to the public since the 1970's which is that you only need to "cut down on the luxuries". Doing that will reduce the rate of weight gain, but it certainly won't stop it or reverse it.

(November 25, 2014 at 12:20 am)psychoslice Wrote: Data from the Australian Diabetes, Obesity and Lifestyle (AusDiab) study indicate that the total direct cost for overweight and obesity in 2005 was $21 billion ($6.5 billion for overweight and $14.5 billion for obesity).
You could have got a more recent figure from my essay:

"The estimated annual costs in Australia directly attributed to obesity related non-communicable disease is AUD21 billion (King, Grunseit, O’Hara & Bauman, 2013)." (Baxter, 2014). That figure does not include pre-obese people.

Also, I'm still waiting for you to explain to me under your theory how it is possible that the weight it took a lifetime for a person to gain that once lost can be fully regained in just 1-2 years? I gave you two clear specific examples, e.g. the 650-lbs virgin was around 30 when he went on a serious lifestyle change to loose 400lbs, which took 2 years of tremendous effort. Following that he regained 300lbs in just 2 years. How is that possible? Do you actually think that if he had not started losing weight in the first place that over the four years that followed he would have gained an additional 600lbs??

You believe what you read, I don't, these people who say that they have tried every diet and lost nothing, are most times lying, they may have tried the diet or sensible way of eating, but that is where it ends, they only tried, which is useless.
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Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by LostLocke - November 21, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by professor - November 21, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 10:45 am
Re: RE: Obesity: five facts - by KUSA - November 21, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 22, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 21, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 21, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by JuliaL - November 22, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 3:02 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2014 at 4:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 28, 2014 at 4:16 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 23, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 24, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 11:45 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 23, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by FifthElement - November 24, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 12:53 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 2:38 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 6:11 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 11:25 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 4:14 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Mequa - November 24, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 25, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 25, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 11:29 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 26, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 3:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 2:36 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Lemonvariable72 - November 27, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 27, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 28, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 28, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 29, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 29, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 29, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 29, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by fr0d0 - November 30, 2014 at 4:21 am

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