[split] Hello everyone

[Chili]

Ok fair enough, but that means they just do not understand any of it,

Or it was written and/or compiled so that you wound up with a book so open to interpretation as to be useless for actually determining any sort of truth, but useful for con men with good imaginations and an audience eager to be deceived.

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That is a very good point you make, but you must understand that the wolf is needed to nurse the lamb [from the rich man's table], wherefore then the messianic movement takes place in Galilee that we call purgatory today (which so is where the fire is at to purify gold). So the difference now is what happens after resurrection (because crucifixion itself is as easy as eating and drinking (according to Golding), but crucial here is the three days in the netherworld spend (right brain) to set the captives free (that Zamjatin called Mephis in "WE") so that liberty can be real in the end. So it really is a house-sweeping event but here now in the right side of our mind that they called upper room in the Gospels, which would be where persistent evils are home such as the sins of the clan, tribe and nation that therefore were called Mephis in WE. So these would also be tradition based and are where Zecharia's 'incense hour' in the particular was all about = is also missing in Matthew, to note.

Then notice that both Jesus' are from Galilee with the only difference that the Jesus in Matthew and Mark was not a true Nazorean that we would call Rome today so that 'tradition' (orthodoxy) provides the manger that is missing Matthew to say. What this means is that intuition must be the guide while in the absence of reason during this stage in life -- that I called the cocoon stage during metamorphosis, which really is what this is all about. Then notice that Herod speaks on behalf of reason (as beyond faith) who so is alive in us but must be pacified like an ox while present in the stable, let's say, and thus consciously aware and sane during this incubation event that is supposed to last for 10 days so that the new can take hold or he will be a 'self proclaimed Christian with his ass on fire for the lord' even if the ox only as much as burbs during that critical early infancy period. So the ox is needed for body heat only, we can say, and was a donkey that Mary rode while dragging 'good old' Joseph to Beth-le-hem then.

So history is what it is and this is where we are today. Russia did it different. They adopted restrain instead of reform and therefore are said to be in the 'silver age' again with future that looks very bright.

Ok fair enough, but that means they just do not understand any of it, and to be frank, the Inquisitor at one time was charged with the duty to find their favorite recipe as Ordered by State Law, and that was only done to keep the fire of hell to a minimum in Christendom then.

And sorry, I hate to tell you this, but I defend the Inquisition also -- which is not to say that we should do it again, but only say that it justified then.

Oh right, and be sure to understand that the so called "Great Commission" is only ordered in Matthew and Mark and that should tell you why they are no better than the Jewish protestants also known as Muslims today, and I think they deserve each other, don't you?

The bible and any biblical teachings or books were changed over time left with open endings and inconsistencies. The bible today and even before was mainly used for political reasons and even taking over land and killing people and be justified over it. The bible is a con mans tool and a offer of false hope. But hey false hope is good enough as true hope.

The bible adds to the complexity of the mythology that creates higher highs in heaven and allows the civilization to expand very fast. Of course the liability is greater and that is why Indulgences were used as an artificial stimulant that in Russia was Siberia for them.

Just don't read the stupid thing if it does not already make sense . . . and here comes that wisdom of Plato again.