(January 27, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Tonus Wrote:(January 27, 2015 at 1:41 pm)Drich Wrote: that's not true there are entire lost cities! It's not that people just forgot where the city was. The desert consumes all!But we know that the desert does not consume all. Aside from the evidence of activity in the range of 6,000-7,000 BC there are the ruins found in 2012 that could be slightly older than those. You note that we have developed methods for detecting even those sites that sank beneath the dunes, yet there is no trace of a nomadic group that likely would have been larger than any of those cities. And you claim that they were so thorough that they reused every last pot, tool, weapon and utensil in order not to leave a single scrap. We must also assume that they somehow "recycled" their dead people and livestock and even "recycled" the tons of fecal matter they had to have been producing daily.
So we can find lost cities, we can find remnants of small tribes, we can find armies with their utensils and weapons that were swallowed by the desert, but perhaps the largest ancient occupation of a desert area leaves not a single trace? That simply does not compute.
Sometimes I truly wonder if you guys are messing with me, or really don't understand the points I am making.
What they found under the sand are heavy stone foundations of former buildings.
In thoses cases that's pretty much all they found.
Your artical shows a city built onto or carved out of a mountain like the city of Petra. Why did they find it? It was all built from stone like the foundations of the city's found under the sands.
The same goes for the Syrian 'stone henge' the operative word in the discovery being 'stone.'
Now again what does all of these discoveries have in common? Everything found was STONE Building Material.
Ok now compare that to the Jews, or the millions who have marched out into that desert under the various conqueres they served.
Why can't we find anything from any of the millions of men who went out and died in that desert?
Let me ask it another way, how much stone did any of those armies carry out into the desert? Or how many stone buildings did those armies build out in the desert?
Again, 'we' are ONLY finding the Stone remains of cities first, and then upon closer inspection we may find the other 'tools' accociated with living there.
So my question to you is: where are the remains of the cooking fires that had to be used in those cities, where are the grave years of bones of the tens if not hundreds of thousands who undoubtly died, where is the fabric of their cloths where is all of the biodegradable stuff you are demanding to see from The exodus? Now why the double standard?
Or do you not understand that the jews like the armies I compared them to, did not build anything we are finding in the desert! That everything they used would have been repurposed until it became fuel for the fire. That even the charred remains would have been continually burned till nothing remained be no resource was wasted.
Now couple that very frugal existence with a city of that time and all of the bio degrade able stuff they would have thrown away, and now ask yourself if we do not have anything from a whole city who existence and use was set in Stone for hundreds if not thousands of years. How is it reasonable to demand the same evidence from a people who wandered the desert in tents for 40, and would have used everything (all the bio degradable 'evidence') up themselves.