Creation/evolution3

[Drich]

You can have faith in your religion, and still believe in evolution.

Seriously?!?! How is it that you feel you can comment on a thread if you haven't read the op? You are speaking to me of what you believe of Christianity and of Christian belief. None of which has any bearing on what has been discussed here.

The points have been reiterated and re-explained to you, and you continue to provide the same arguments.

show me. You are big on baseless accusations. (Just like in your last post.) give me post numbers where my arguements do not specifically apply to the details I am answering.

Of course, some of the Bible is plausible, and of course, some events reflect possible historical events at the time. But that does not mean that you can take the word of the Bible as the literal word of God.

Funny thing, when you do... God shows up in your life. Maybe, that is why I believe as I do and you and yours believe as you do.

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If you want to continue this conversation you willl need to directly answer my questions. why? because everything I have said here I have now said to you specifically two or three times. Show me your reading and processing what I have to say.

I have explained why what you are saying does not suffice, in at least two or three different ways. If you disagree that's fine, but I'm not under any obligation to discard the major issue with your claims just to focus on everything except that major issue. As I said, your need to salvage the story is not my problem; I am not forced to discount the 800-lb gorilla in the room (the sheer size of the group and the long time scale) in order to discuss the issue.

You've lost your right to introduce any more new material into this conversation till you provide an accurate synopsis of my position. Why? Because your last two attemps were strawmen, and for as much time and effort I have in here breaking this discussion down to you. This laps in your understanding seems to be intentional. Therefore I will not waste any more of my time, until you account for the time I have already spent here.

So again as per my last two posts answer the questions I asked and restate my position as I have stated it.

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I've allready conceed the fact that what I said here does not regester as evidence that it did happen. I am pointing out that the Exodus account is plausible. Just as all of the other 'historical' stories of cities, and men lost to the desert with absolutly no evidence.

Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

Of course, there may have been some real events that inspired the myth of Exodus.

You missing the bigger point here.
If manna and water from rocks were known/knowable events then why would the jews worship God?

All the stuff that they witnessed in the desert establishes God to the nation of Israel. Before this He only spoke to a few patriarchs.

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Plausible is a real stretch IMO. It would only be plausible if manna and water from rocks was plausible, because there is no other way millions of people and animals could survive in the desert - not when the population of Egypt, the most productive farmland of the world, was only 3 million at that time.

I'm curious as to this 'manna'; what it supposedly was and where it cane from. I wonder if Drich subscribes to the Velikovsky idea that it was a by-product of the planet Venus, after it was birthed from Jupiter's Great Red Spot and went bouncing arong the Solar System like every shot I make in a game of pool? Supposedly, it passed by Earth twice, the first time causing the Red Sea to divide (because, y'know - gravity is magic) then later, when it made chemical changes in our atmosphere and magically invented this edible, nourishing 'manna' which fell out of the clouds just where and when the script needed it.

I posted this for someone who 'couldnt' read the bible, just in case you suffer from the same affliction he does, wiki does a fair job.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna

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Well, yes ,the entire thrust of the Pentateuch is that seeking knowledge and thinking for yourself are both deadly sins.

Seeking knoweledge for yourself, 4000 years ago.. So do you think a lot of this modern endeavor was the goal of indivisual people then?