Creation/evolution3

[Drich]

How about you read the responses that people take the time to type to you? You might find it enlightening. There is a timeline, it is very well delineated, you can do the math or I can do the math, in fact anyone can do the math.

Read the OP sport. The 'time line and all your math covers the time from the fall forward. That's it. From the fall back to the last day of creation their is no time line.

Do you understand now?

From fall forward 6000 years. from fall back to end of creation no time line.
Which leaves room for ALL Of Evolutionary account to have taken place.

Second thing. Man, a Man, Adam was different than ALL Other creatures in that God breathed into Him a Living soul. This was unique to Adam and his children and their children.

-of which you and I are not.

Noah was a son of Seth, which was a son of Adam. We are ALL Decendants of Noah. Therefore we are.

IF
It is your belief that man existed outside of the garden the bible does not deny you this belief. In fact it supports it as it speaks of cities and of people not listed in the garden account. However as per genesis 2 these 'men did not have souls as ADAM was the only one who did.

Neither do you, because you're one of those men, one of us......and yes, I'm aware...those men and those cities described therein are part of the timeline layed out in the narrative.

Point?

So to recap: Monkey men/Evolved man/ Man who lived out side the garden did not have a soul. Adam did per The Creation account.

Good for Adam, don't care.

Did you forget why we are reviewing all of this? you wanted biblical support for my position, here it is. now you say you don't care? How are you not a troll?

You do not have question you make strawmen and want me to defend what you think I should say.

as always, you misidentify a fallacy in the reverse.

I highlighted what you said my position was, then I corrected it. Your version, because it was different and because you formulated an arguement to fit what you said my position was, makes what you said a strawman.
So no. Your work has indeed been correctly identified. If you don't like your work being identified as being fallacious then make an effort to understand the opposition before you speak against it.

Nope try again sport. This is exactly what I mean by you creating strawmen. A link I posted showed the scripture that said their clothing did not wear out, everything being discussed clothing never came up. You all want to see camp fires, poop, bones, dead people, tents and pottery

Of course we do, because that's what real people would have left in their wake, as opposed to fictional people within the pages of a fairy tale about magical clothes and "manna".

But again I have demonstrated over and over again that 2000 year old cities who had lasted hundreds of years in that region, with millions of people who live and worked in them over the years, do not show us the bio-degradable 'evidence' you are looking for... And these cities were viable 2000 years ago. Moses happened about 2000 years before that... So help me out here, but if 60 different cities who had been in place for decades if not centuries, and all of it's people leave no trace but their stone foundations after 2000 years, how can a 40 year old tent settlement leave bio-degradable material to be found 4000 years later?

Just incase you STILL don't understand Imagine the trash 60 cities would make over 100 years. Lets take all that trash and put it into a ten mile by ten mile pile. Now lets take that pile and put it into the desert and leave it exposed for 2000 years. how much do you think would be left? This is essentially what has happened. How much 'trash' do you think would be left being exposed to the harshest climate/wild temp swings after 2000 years.. In truth very little. But for arguement's sake lets say there was enough left over after 2000 year to fill a modern dump/landfill. (usally a mile by a mile and the dig down as deep as the can and backfill with trash and dirt.)
Now put it all back in the desert and let another 2000 years go by. what's left of the bio-degradables then?

Again 60 cites have recently been found in that area. THE ONLY THING LEFT ARE THEIR STONE FOUNDATIONS. None of the Things You Are Looking For From The Exodus Have Survived These Cities! So then How are the Exapected to Survive the open Desert for twice the Exposure?

You've demonstrated your expertise in misidentifying logical fallacies at length.

Wishfull self deluded thinking
I provided a link to the defination, broke the defination down, compared your words and thoughts to the subject being discussed to the Fallacy's defination, and restated the subject matter being discussed prooving that you are indeed a spinner of strawmen

Actually I can not support what you believe I believe. In the very beginning of your last post you wanted to provide a synopsis. YOU FAILED To do That! So then how can you tell me I can't support what I believe if you don't even have an elementry grasp of it?

I stand by my summary.

then provide evidence that supports the fact that your summary is indeed an accurate repersentation of the subject matter as I have described it in great detail many many many times.

No you wont, and frankly, you can't. I point to your time here as evidence of both facts.

empty unsupported sweaping accusations. When you were prompted to support your claim, you just issued more sweeping accusation that you still will not support.

this is the laziness i was talking about.

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(rather than break God's rule about abortion to save the mother's life)? (Correct me if I misunderstand.)

What's gods rules about abortion?

don't Murder

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What's gods rules about abortion?

According to Drich, God is opposed to abortion and homosexuality. I think the abortion rule is derived from the ten commandments' "thou shalt not kill"? The homosexuality rule comes from some bible verse that says God hates a man sleeping with another man. The Jews were opposed to male homosexuality, but it's not clear how they felt about female homosexuality.

robvalue mentioned the verse about deciding the innocence of a women by forcing her to drink a nasty magic potion that would shrivel her womb or something. I never connected that with abortion, but maybe that was what it described. (My eyes usually glazed-over when I read that part of the Bible. )

Don't murder, and the Homosexual thing is derived from the only nonsinful way to have sex is through a santified marriage. God does not offer santification through same sex marriages therefore Homosexual sex is a sin. Just like anyother sexual sin. Which mean one must seek repentance for it.