Creation/evolution3

[Drich]

An observation like watching God work in your life?

What one cannot witness is god actually doing anything for anyone.

What can be observed, however, is the effect an irrational belief in god has on a person.

That's not true is it. At best all one can say is "I" have never witnessed God doing anything for me. Because if your mind is closed to God then no matter what happens you would simply attribute whatever you wittnesed to something else. It's only when one is face to face with God that He can not be denied.

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An observation like watching God work in your life?

If it can be shown to be repeatable and not attributed to another cause, bring it on.

Kinda like the Big Bang or macroevolution are repeatable, huh?

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I'm really busy right now, Drich. So I'm only going to adress what I most disliked about your response to me.
"So all genocide, rape, and oppression is bad?"
I cannot think of a single instance where any of these is a good thing.
You claim the foundation of our lifestyles are these things. If this is true, which you didn't provide any evidence for, than that is unfortunate, and does not make genocide, rape, and oppression good. These are problems found in many different places, not just in, because of, or founder of America.

ALL Soceities are built on oppression, rape, and genocide. Like it or not. The idea of soceity it self is the offspring of these things. If you do not believe this to be true name one not built on the backs of these 'all bad things.'

To say you endorse soceity but completely shun rape, genocide, and oppression is like saying you will only eat the fruit of a tree who can only be planted on the mass grave of a nations worth of dead children... If you will only eat this fruit, then You are responsible for the planting of this tree, and all the death who died to bring this tree to life.

Which again, I have no issue with planting. Why? Because the benfits of soceity far out way the mad max/book of Eli world it would be without it.

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so all genocide, rape, oppression is bad? What if I told you none of us would be here is not for these things? Our 'western' lifestyles have these things as a foundation.

Can you provide an example when genocide, rape and oppression are good?

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For the establishment of the United States.

Without slavery we would have never been able to seperate our selves from the mash bangers and in turn pull the mash bangers and frogs out of the fire in WWII. Because if you remember the 13 colonies were one of many such colonies held by the Europeans at the time. France, Spain and even germany had a foot hold in what is considered to be greater North America at the time.

No United states Vée, vould all ve sprechen ze deutsch..

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Again I provided a dictionary defination that says otherwise.

It is evidence that can also be derived from observation as well as tangible evidence. In short empirical evidence means reasoning drived from some sort of evidence as opposed to position based on pure a theory or logic. A theory Like say the Big Bang.

http://www.simplypsychology.org/science-psychology.html

This explains it when your talking about "Empirical Evidence"

The artical clearly states that in psychology they changed the term's meaning to fit a needed defination in that specific field... You do know the discussions we have been having have nothing to do with psychology right?