(January 30, 2015 at 1:55 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: O.k., I'm still trying to understand how you see this.The Law of Moses (All of it)
What do you see as God's law?
Quote:Most of the Bible's laws are impossible to obey, because there is no Jewish temple.And then their the bit where Christ extends the Law beyond action to include even involentary thought.
Therefore we need to turn to the redemption/attonement side of the law.
This is well documented in the book of Romans.
Quote:You aren't a Messianic Jew as far as I know. If we take Jesus' "love thy neighbor" as the guide, then how do we condemn homosexual sex?The command is to love/agapao thy neighbor as yourself, not to love/eros thy neighbor.
In the greek there are four roots to the word we translale into the one word 'love.' Each one of these words describes a different aspect of love.
In the Greatest commands (love thy neighbor) the word love is Agapao which mean to respect to entertain/welcome
Eros is the physical/passion aspec of love/
The command given is to respect others as you respect yourself meaning do not hold other to a standard you yourself are not held to.
I've done that.
Quote:After all, homosexual sex is not hurting anybody, and it is actually an expression of love - just like heterosexual sex.Which again is also not sanctioned/considered a sin outside of a santified marriage.
Quote: The only justification for condemning homosexuality is some Bible verses. The Jews traditionally condemned homosexuality, but they also tried to follow all the dietary rules, etc.And when they couldn't they sought attonement. The same is true now.
Quote:It seems like your approach is:Actually I've adopted God's righteousness, and see 'morality' for what it is.
- follow the Bible laws when it doesn't conflict with your own morals
Quote:- break the Bible laws and repent when morally necessaryWe are all 'breaking' the Moral law all the time. That is why the law allows for repentance.
Quote:- follow your own morals when no Bible law appliesFreedom from the law as a means to righteousness is the reason Christ died on the cross. This means we are free from 'bible law' If we seek His attonement as outined in scripture.
Quote:Is that a good summary? Of course we also need to decide which Bible laws apply to Christians, so we know when to repent.All, and None apply.