Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet

[Anima]

Yes it requires two parties to make babies.  However the sexual orientation of the two parties does not matter.  The notion that it is wrong to have homosexuals marry because they can't have children is false.

I had this debate with a gay man a few years ago. So I will say you are correct the orientation of the parties does not matter. So long as their activities are those of heterosexuals As said earlier you may hope they will do what they are not inclined to do. Or encourage those already inclined to do more of what they were already predisposed to do. I wonder which method would be more effective? hmm...?

So are you now saying:
Homosexuality is wrong because they are worse human beings because they don't want to procreate by having sex.  This is wrong because if 99% of the world were to die off, all the medical facilities, and all the power in the world were destroyed, if we had too many homosexuals that were unwilling to have sex with someone else to keep the population going, then we might go extinct.

From a social and biological argument you could say this. As the social value of even an utterly useless person in nearly any other regard at least lies in their potential to create offspring of value. The biological value of organism lies in their ability to procreate (it is the reason why we are male and female, as well as why the great majority of organisms on this planet live just long enough to procreate).

From a moral standpoint the argument would be more in accordance with the teleological purpose of the act. While it may readily be argued that any number of activities may be done for purposes not in accordance with their teleological purpose (sex for pleasure, perversion, torture, authoritative dominance, etcetera) we would say be better suited to argue that an act may be determined in terms of its teleological end (meaning if the end itself is bad the act is bad) and then arguing if the means by which the end is accomplished is of a moral quality. Generally we may state if an act fails to satisfy the former than the latter does not matter. If it satisfies the former than any particular actor may be said to act immorally if they fail at the latter.