RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
July 2, 2015 at 11:22 am
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2015 at 12:19 pm by Ace.)
I ask again my question:
Marriage is under contract law and today it is now considered a fundamental right. Under the ideas of a fundamental mental right it cannot be denied or taken away. However, if it is under contract law and considered a contract (which many court rulings have :AKA Judge Judy ) that can be dissolved, then is divorce to become illegal? What of annulments?
Because a contract can be dissolved then how is it now considered a fundamental right if one can later on denied, (not want to stay in) and undo, (take way) the marriage contract?
It is also integrating that it is under contract law because it is the states, not the federal government, that can decide who enter into the contract, what it says, and if legal. Right now all same sex couple still must go to the county clerk’s off or some state office and ask for a state licenses. So are the states still in charge of the contract and do they have the same authority over them?
Spoken like a true religious Protestant/Evangelical: Salvation through law ;-)
I have heard of this sad problem occurring and do agree that it does. However, if its life that we are truly looking to fight for and save; marriage has nothing to do with suicide prevention . Many people sadly commit suicide for any number of reason of either because of a very difficult life, terrible events as well as get into a down slop (or become depress) for reason that may never identified
According to the American mental health organizations, the true culprit of suicide is depression it is self that occurs in the individuals to the point of self-harm. An estimated 80 to 70 % percent of suicide could have very easily be prevented. Why many suicides occur is because of either refusing to seek medical help, possible stigmata of such a sickness or lack of knowledge, to the slow time it takes for the medication or treatment to become effective.
Yes, there is no doubt many in the gay community and non-gay community have hurt badly both mentally and physically. However, it is from such hurt that depression starts to manifest heavily in the individual thus leading to a possible sad end.
The need to prevent suicide comes from the continuation by the medical profession to study this illness and discovering faster/better treatment to combat the sickness of depression.
Marriage is under contract law and today it is now considered a fundamental right. Under the ideas of a fundamental mental right it cannot be denied or taken away. However, if it is under contract law and considered a contract (which many court rulings have :AKA Judge Judy ) that can be dissolved, then is divorce to become illegal? What of annulments?
Because a contract can be dissolved then how is it now considered a fundamental right if one can later on denied, (not want to stay in) and undo, (take way) the marriage contract?
It is also integrating that it is under contract law because it is the states, not the federal government, that can decide who enter into the contract, what it says, and if legal. Right now all same sex couple still must go to the county clerk’s off or some state office and ask for a state licenses. So are the states still in charge of the contract and do they have the same authority over them?
(July 2, 2015 at 10:45 am)Justtristo Wrote: .
The legal recognition of same sex marriages is in my opinion no "purely symbolic" issue. Because it goes a long way to convince the “rubes” (the religious fundamentalists are another matter) that homophobia is not acceptable. Reverend Lovejoy said something about the mindset of these people in the Simpsons “Once something has been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral”.
Spoken like a true religious Protestant/Evangelical: Salvation through law ;-)
(July 2, 2015 at 10:45 am)Justtristo Wrote: Given the fact that many young people commit suicide or are killed because of their sexual orientation. I see marriage equality as a moral imperative, because this will help to prevent countless people from either killing themselves or being killed by others.
I have heard of this sad problem occurring and do agree that it does. However, if its life that we are truly looking to fight for and save; marriage has nothing to do with suicide prevention . Many people sadly commit suicide for any number of reason of either because of a very difficult life, terrible events as well as get into a down slop (or become depress) for reason that may never identified
According to the American mental health organizations, the true culprit of suicide is depression it is self that occurs in the individuals to the point of self-harm. An estimated 80 to 70 % percent of suicide could have very easily be prevented. Why many suicides occur is because of either refusing to seek medical help, possible stigmata of such a sickness or lack of knowledge, to the slow time it takes for the medication or treatment to become effective.
Yes, there is no doubt many in the gay community and non-gay community have hurt badly both mentally and physically. However, it is from such hurt that depression starts to manifest heavily in the individual thus leading to a possible sad end.
The need to prevent suicide comes from the continuation by the medical profession to study this illness and discovering faster/better treatment to combat the sickness of depression.
