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What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell
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RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell
(December 9, 2008 at 11:54 pm)Daystar Wrote: Actually it isn't. Some poor scholars have attempted to sell some books to that effect, but that's about it. A few years back I made a somewhat hasty decision regarding some information I was given to that effect and briefly denounced my beliefs. I started to look into it further in order to share this information with others and discovered it was not the case.

That makes me a bit of a putz, doesn't it? Anyway I will not do that again.

Ugh. Daystar. Please. How many of these books did you actually bother to read? And with the underhanded insult too... tsk tsk.

Now, I don't think you did look into it hard enough, because there is clear evidence that the Jesus story is plagiarised... Before I even go into that though, you know that the bible was only a loose collection of stories before they were gathered as a list, probably in the second century. This begs the question as to where these stories actually came from. You say inspired, I agree, you say by god, I say by earlier stories. Not until Paul was the gnostic christ figure assigned divinity etc etc, and not until Ignatius was "the gospel" mentioned, or the virgin birth, and these early Christ cults were actually in a sense rebelling against the gnostic idea that christ was a spiritual figure- not an actual person. They called gnostics heretics... Hmm.

So, anyway, these people doing the actual writing had to figure out some way, it seems, to make their case more presentable, adding eyewittness accounts (which are not quoted, by the way, by either Paul or Ignatius) and then miracles. So, starting with the virgin birth, it's probably based on Tammuz, born of the virgin Myrrha. Appropriately, this particular myth was based in northern Israel. How many other "Sons of God" were hangin around, supposedly born of a mortal woman? Some of the older ones; Ra, Krishna,Tammuz, Dionysus... just as examples.

Horus particularly interests me, and because I'm reading "The Pagan Christ" (By Tom Harpur) right now, I'll take a few of his examples.
-When Horus was born, the Morning Star of egypt, (Sirius) signalled his birth
-Horus was baptized by "Anup the Baptizer" who was later decapitated
-Horus walked on water
-Horus healed the sick
-Horus was crucified, burried, and resurrected
-Horus was the good shepard, the lamb, the bread of life, the son of man, the word

These are just a few, and apparently Gerald Massey has traced over 180, if you care to look them up.

Everything about Jesus had already been done by the time he showed up.
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What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - November 29, 2008 at 7:06 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - November 30, 2008 at 4:46 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - November 30, 2008 at 11:03 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 1, 2008 at 11:02 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 1, 2008 at 4:51 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 2, 2008 at 11:33 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 3, 2008 at 3:19 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Darwinian - December 1, 2008 at 7:11 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Tiberius - December 1, 2008 at 7:37 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Darwinian - December 1, 2008 at 9:18 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Darwinian - December 1, 2008 at 2:21 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 1, 2008 at 4:10 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 1, 2008 at 5:50 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 2, 2008 at 12:19 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Tiberius - December 1, 2008 at 6:45 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 1, 2008 at 10:53 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 2, 2008 at 6:43 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Tiberius - December 2, 2008 at 4:55 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 2, 2008 at 5:02 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by leo-rcc - December 2, 2008 at 5:13 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Kyuuketsuki - December 2, 2008 at 11:08 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 3, 2008 at 8:00 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 3, 2008 at 11:41 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 3, 2008 at 11:51 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 12:03 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 4, 2008 at 11:20 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 12:23 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 1:37 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 1:56 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 3:14 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 5:48 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 4, 2008 at 7:13 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 5:59 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Dotard - December 4, 2008 at 11:12 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 4, 2008 at 11:28 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 11:46 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Kyuuketsuki - December 5, 2008 at 12:01 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 12:19 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 1:11 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 5, 2008 at 1:59 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 1:18 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 1:20 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 1:21 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 1:24 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 1:25 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 1:33 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 5:25 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 5:33 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 5:38 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 5:42 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 10:14 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by LukeMC - December 6, 2008 at 9:28 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Tiberius - December 6, 2008 at 8:18 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Kyuuketsuki - December 6, 2008 at 11:55 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 6, 2008 at 12:05 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 9, 2008 at 8:31 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 9, 2008 at 11:49 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 9, 2008 at 11:54 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 10, 2008 at 12:57 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 10, 2008 at 11:31 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 9, 2008 at 10:48 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 9, 2008 at 11:46 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by lukec - December 10, 2008 at 2:52 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 10, 2008 at 3:20 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Kyuuketsuki - December 11, 2008 at 7:30 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 11, 2008 at 12:09 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Kyuuketsuki - December 12, 2008 at 6:45 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 2:44 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by CoxRox - December 13, 2008 at 2:59 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 8:09 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 8:23 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 13, 2008 at 8:41 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 12:44 am
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 2:10 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Tiberius - December 13, 2008 at 10:05 pm
RE: What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell - by Daystar - December 14, 2008 at 12:14 am

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