(July 8, 2015 at 4:39 pm)Drich Wrote: The bible may not have to mention the words free will inorder for people to create doctrine and worship God as if they did indeed have free will. Clearly. The problem though is in Biblically described Christianity we are all described as slaves, and as we have hashed out many many times now. A slave's will is not his own. He is not Free. His will is bound to that of His Master. the question Christianity originally posited is not one of whether or not we have 'free will' but who do you serve/Who is your master. God or Sin.
"Free will" was introduced as a scape goat to answer the hard questions. However the problem is it conflicts with who we all are in relation to God, and it creates inconsistancies in scripture. however if we learn to speak where the bible speaks and remain silent where the bible is silent then those inconsistancies go away.
John 8:31-32
"To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.
Then you will know the truth and the truth will make you free."
Jesus and Paul seem to have a difference of opinion here. Don't know whose slave you are Drich, since if you're following Jesus, the man said you will be free.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
