RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
September 22, 2015 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2015 at 5:07 pm by Jenny A.)
(September 22, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:But as you avoid addressing, his minions were Christians and his appeal was to Christians and he was killing people not for their beliefs, but for their race. And he sure didn't kill anyone for being Christian though he killed so Christians for sticking up for Jews or for homosexuals. He did indeed believe in eugenics. But that isn't atheism.Jenny A Wrote:Hitler was raised Catholic and may or may not have believed in some higher power. But he killed because he was racist and to gain power, not as a crusading atheist. And he didn't give a damn about whether Jews believed in god, only that they had Jewish ancestry. And those who carried out his orders were almost invariably Christian. And he appealed to Christians for why Jews should be killed. It's a wash. Catholics were implicit partly out of fear and partly out of racism. Ditto Christians in general. Both Catholics and Lutherans participated. So victims 30 million a wash.
Ha! Many of YOU were "raised Catholics" but you're atheists now for all that, aren't you? So, that's not much of a mark against the Church, is it?
Was Hitler acting specifically as a Catholic or on behalf of the Catholic Church? Or is it more likely that having been influenced by Nietzsche, Hitler had no qualms about murdering anyone who stood in his way? Natural selection and all that.
(September 22, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:Jenny A Wrote:Mao may have believed in a higher power or not. Who cares?. He killed people because of their political beliefs, or more accurately for their failure to comply, not over religion or lack there of.
Ditto Stalin.
Neither Stalin nor Mao would have hesitated to kill an atheist. They both killed for power and out of paranoia.
And as atheists, they were FAR more murderous than any Christian in history.
But not to enforce atheism and only because they had access to better killing tech.
But the inquisition and the burning of heretics elsewhere and the holy wars. Those were because of religion. And people were killed because of their religion not because of race or politics.
(September 22, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Inquisition - British propaganda against Catholic Spain.
Burning of Heretics - Occurred a handful of times at most including among Protestants, so don't take this too far with regard to Catholicism.
The Crusades - Originally intended as defensive wars against the Muslims who were aggressive in the Holy Lands.
And by the way, if it were not for the Battle of Lepanto, all of Europe may well be Muslim today.
That was a Catholic victory.
A Catholic victory over Islam. See! War over religion. Atheist and theist kill for power. Only theists kill over religion.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.