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The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians
(September 30, 2015 at 2:18 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 2:15 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Again, though no has addressed if the father has a say.  This is what makes abortion so tough because of the variables involved in the decision.  That fetus is half the mother and half the father.  Let's not bring up cases of rape/incest, etc.  Lets speak strictly in terms of a consensual relationship.  The couple gets pregnant and the mother doesn't want the baby, but the father does.  Is it solely the mother's choice because she is carrying it?  It's tough.  Put yourself in the situation, if you are a man and your wife/GF/fiancee announces she's pregnant and you are over the moon excited, but then she tells you she doesn't want it.  How would you react? 

"Well right now it's just a parasite feeding off of you and it's your body"
"Just a collection of cells and it's your choice"
"I've been dying to have a child and the baby is part of me as well"

I'm not lending any credence to one response over the other as I think each situation is different and that's what makes abortion so tough to discuss because it's not an easy blanket answer for all situations.

IMO, the father should only have a say if that's what the mother wants. If you think about it, it's the fair thing to do.

No one's saying abortion is easy, btw.

Well it seems the responses have been proposed as simple.  It's the woman's body and ultimately her choice what to do.  I don't disagree there as I feel any consensual sexual relationship should discuss the possibility of pregnancy and where each partner stands on conceiving and caring for a child.  I tried to ask Rocket this question (and maybe he will respond), because of his recent over the moon excitement of having another child.  I'm curious his reaction if his fiancee said that she was going to abort.  He does support the woman's right, but IMO the father should have some say as its his DNA as well.

But yes, this topic is very difficult for a number of reasons.
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Spooky - September 18, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by abaris - September 17, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by brewer - September 17, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Aroura - September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 5:05 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by abaris - September 17, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by rado84 - September 17, 2015 at 6:21 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Cato - September 17, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Cato - September 18, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by rado84 - September 17, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by MTL - September 17, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Chad32 - September 17, 2015 at 7:39 pm
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by KevinM1 - September 18, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by Losty - September 18, 2015 at 1:19 am
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RE: The Atheist Obsession with Insulting Christians - by KevinM1 - September 20, 2015 at 10:29 am
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