Oh lord now we've moved on from hitler to abortion?
Ok I'll bite.
"Can you explain why killing a baby in utero is ok based solely on the decision of the mother (as you said you have no say), but killing a baby a minute after its born is murder?" Kp
A fetus isn't scientifically or legally considered a baby until after it is born. Different people have different opinions on late term abortions, but I think the important thing to remember is that it's not worth debating. Late term abortions account for only 1% of abortions performed and of those it's almost always to save the mother's life. If the even tinier number of people who do non-medically necessary late term abortions had access to affordable abortions with no hoops, we could eliminate all late term abortions that aren't medically necessary. As it is we've already eliminated almost all of them.
"Is it a different baby? Is it any less dependent on the mother than when in utero?"
Yes it is less dependent. In one case it is physically depending on the mother's body and in the other case it isn't. I always wonder what argument prolifers would use if we went in and carefully removed fetuses and let them die on the table. It's not killing them. Just removing them from the mother's body and then they happened to die. People always argue that sure women have the right to bodily autonomy but not to the extent of killing another life. Ok what if we don't kill it and it simply dies. Like being disconnected from life support.
Ok I'll bite.
"Can you explain why killing a baby in utero is ok based solely on the decision of the mother (as you said you have no say), but killing a baby a minute after its born is murder?" Kp
A fetus isn't scientifically or legally considered a baby until after it is born. Different people have different opinions on late term abortions, but I think the important thing to remember is that it's not worth debating. Late term abortions account for only 1% of abortions performed and of those it's almost always to save the mother's life. If the even tinier number of people who do non-medically necessary late term abortions had access to affordable abortions with no hoops, we could eliminate all late term abortions that aren't medically necessary. As it is we've already eliminated almost all of them.
"Is it a different baby? Is it any less dependent on the mother than when in utero?"
Yes it is less dependent. In one case it is physically depending on the mother's body and in the other case it isn't. I always wonder what argument prolifers would use if we went in and carefully removed fetuses and let them die on the table. It's not killing them. Just removing them from the mother's body and then they happened to die. People always argue that sure women have the right to bodily autonomy but not to the extent of killing another life. Ok what if we don't kill it and it simply dies. Like being disconnected from life support.
