Buzz - Please read the past, oh, 20 pages or so of this thread. We have covered most of this issue, and your points about fetuses ignore a few of the major arguments that were made and settled, earlier, regarding the status of human rights even if we assume that a fetus is a full-grown adult (skipping over the reduced rights of a minor child and going straight to "full adult citizen"), which still would not grant that fetus the right to/over a person's body for sustinence or sustaining of life. If you have read these points, on the legal background for why medical privacy rights and bodily integrity cannot be violated by another, under any guise, and yet you still persist in the whole "it's a human being" argument, then you are simply throwing out emotional arguments in the face of the legalities that have been established, which is both moot and safely ignored.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.