RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 12:22 am
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2015 at 12:32 am by TheRocketSurgeon.
Edit Reason: Pit, not Bit. Grrr.
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(October 8, 2015 at 12:07 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 12:00 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: A choice between service to someone who is the moral equivalent of a rapist, demanding that I submit to him at pain of torture?
Yeah, I'll take the torture and refuse to serve such a wicked being as this God you describe.
Can you explain the rapist accusation please?
God isn't forcing you to do anything you don't wanna do
and sure, but that's a little disturbing how you prefer torture :S
Certainly.
God is saying, essentially: "I love you more than you can imagine. I want you to love me, too. You have free will to choose to accept my love and love me in return, or to reject my offer. Oh, and if you reject my offer I'm going to drop you into a pit of burning sulfur."
That is a rapist and psychopath.
I don't prefer torture; I prefer defiance to submission in the face of a violent threat.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.