RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2015 at 12:18 pm by Jenny A.)
(October 8, 2015 at 11:24 am)Evie Wrote: Catholics are followers of Jesus and that makes them Christians.
In fact they are the biggest Christian group there is.
It's always hilarious when people say Catholics aren't Christians. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they the original Christians too?
I still think they're just as full of BS of course, but other forms of Christianity are no better.
Actually, it's worse than that. The early Christian church is one great sectarian split. Paul's letters are all about the great split over whether you can be a Christian without being a Jew first. The synoptic gospels and John disagree profoundly as to what Jesus said.
The list of heresies banned before the fourth century (losing sects) is long: adoptionism (belief that Jesus was born a mortal man and raised to godhood by adoption later); Apollinarism (a belief that the souls as well as the body are involved in creating souls and only Jesus' soul was divine); Arienism (a belief that Jesus is not eternal but created by god at a specific point in time); Docetism (belief that Jesus was divine but his body was a mere illusion); there's a related heresy that Jesus inhabited the body of a real mortal man and exited that body to heaven at death thus causing the poor remaining human to cry my god, my god why hast thou forsaken me. And many more. A lengthy list can be found at List of Christian Heresies
My personal favorite is the Gnostics who believe generally (there were different sects of Gnostics) that we are all divine souls trapped in material bodies by a bad god (the god of Abraham) and that Jesus came to tell us how to escape our material bodies and reacquire our divinity.
And then there's the Orthodox Christians.
Why anyone would think the KJV is a special new revelation is beyond me. But it's all a little beyond me.
One thing is clear, either as a communicator Jesus lacked something or much got lost in translation.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.