RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 11, 2015 at 1:22 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2015 at 1:25 am by sinnerdaniel94.)
(October 11, 2015 at 12:41 am)Irrational Wrote: Daniel, Paul may have been more of a faith only guy, but James and John and even Jesus were the opposite. You need to believe and do good works for salvation.
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Justified by works, not faith alone.
well that's simply not the case. The faith that James 2 and other passages of the like are referring to is not justification before God, but before men. dead faith implies that faith is there. Its like saying my cat is dead, then saying I don't have a cat actually. You saying dead cat means there's a cat that exists that is dead, otherwise it would be a meaningless statement. The same is with faith. Faith can still exist, but it is dead when we don't do works. The bible talks about dead works as well. Works without faith is dead. (Hebrews 6:1)
Galatians 2: 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law [aka works], then Christ is dead in vain.
This is known as works salvation and it spits in the face of God's gospel. The good news is that no work is needed for our forgiveness (just belief on the Son) Jesus said it is finished. Thank God because if it were up to me to live a good Christian life to be saved I would fail hard. A true Christian is one who is humble and takes no credit for his salvation, rather boasts only in the work of God.
(October 11, 2015 at 12:50 am)Kitan Wrote:(October 11, 2015 at 12:42 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: I have no clue. I'm not familiar with all the names and stuff. That's why for my religious views I put KJV bible Christian because that was the best name I could come up with
Christians are really weird these days, most of them make no sense to me
I freaking call idiot on this dude. No one professes a belief in something without knowing what it is in which he believes.
like atheism