(February 2, 2016 at 5:42 pm)Vicki Q Wrote:(February 1, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails
Festingers research is interesting from a number of angles, but not relevant in this case, and it has become now extremely rare for serious scholars to use it relating to Xianity's origins, because of the force of the counter-arguments.
I will only mention one of the methodological issues- up to a third of the group at any one time were researchers, so small were the numbers.
More importantly, there was little follow up of the destinations of the group. It can only be assumed that, in complete contrast to the disciples, virtually all of them ultimately recognised their mistake and went back to the day jobs, and the group disbanded.
But there is one far more crucial difference.
Festinger's subjects were reacting to the happening of nothing, when they were expecting something. The disciples were reacting to something- something radically different to what they had been expecting. They actually realised they had been radically wrong (about the nature of the Kingdom, the functioning of the Messiah, the scope of God's project), where the flying saucer cult sought to hold on to the belief that they were right.
Not buying it. With any failed prediction, if the group carries on, new beliefs replace old beliefs.
(February 2, 2016 at 5:42 pm)Vicki Q Wrote: Let me say it yet again- C1 Judaism worked differently to BD and Festinger's cult in crucial ways. In your next post please try to show that you understand what C1 Jewish messianism involved.
This is just special pleading.