Objectifying women

[Shell B]

Adrian, again, I realize that no one here has said it was justifiable to rape someone. My statement is actually backed up by your above statement. I merely said I dress the way I do because of men that think it is justifiable to rape a woman because of the way she dresses. I didn't say "Because of rapists like you guys that think it's okay to attack someone because of the way she dresses, I dress like a librarian." And, again, no one can argue that there are not men who think that way.

There are certain actions that are more likely to get you raped; and if you ignore common sense and act like an idiot, you are partially to blame.

This is where we disagree. I only disagree with you for that plain and simple fact that not everyone has common sense. How can you ignore common sense, if you are a walking brick? Let's say a woman is gorgeous, but she doesn't have the sense it takes to pump her own gas. She dresses scantily because she is beautiful, she at least has enough sense to know that. However, her common sense doesn't tell her that she could attract negative attention this way. Basically, she has the mind of a child. Children, as we know, are far too trusting. So is this woman. Is it her fault then, if she doesn't know any better? I think not. The fault lies with the attacker, every time. 100% of the blame is his (or hers, not all rapists are men). Of course there are bad people out there who take advantage of naivete. None of the blame should ever be removed from them, for any reason. If you attack someone, you are piece of shit. If you are attacked, you are a victim, nothing more, nothing less. There is no partial blame here.

With all of the above being said, allow me to point out that psychologically rape has very little to do with a woman's clothing. I would even go so far as to say it has nothing to do with a woman's clothing. Rape is about control, power or simply getting something you want that you otherwise couldn't get. So, knowing that, I know that if the girl dressed like a stripper wasn't there for the sick guy on the prowl to rape, the sick guy would rape grandma in her orthopedic shoes. I don't see how what a girl is wearing has anything to do with rape.

And by the same token none of you can argue that there aren't women who feel that way. Well, you could argue it, but you would be wrong. In no way would I saddle the whole and hold them to the opinions of a few. I think a more correct statement would have been "...that there aren't people who feel that way."

Quite right, Dotard. I do try to not pin these things on one sex. My apologies. I was simply thinking of men because it was my clothing that I was talking about and I just wasn't picturing a woman trying to rape me. That being said, that isn't an excuse.

This is funny, though.

There are some who nit-pick the words used to convey the thoughts on the matter

If it was some piece of a companys, whom you work for, property you left out on the driveway and was stolen I doubt said company is going to say "It's not your fault. Not one iota, it's 100% the thiefs fault. No worrys, we'll get a new one."
No, you will be told "Dumbass! Why you leave it out on the driveway? It's your fault it was stolen. You gotta pay for it and we'll deduct it from your paycheck." You will be "blamed" for the theft.

No doubt a company that handled gold bars would not hire someone who they thought was incapable of handling said gold bars. In this case, you are to blame because safekeeping of the gold bars is part of your job description. Unfortunately, life does not come with a job description and we can't expect everyone to be capable of their own safekeeping. We should be able to be safe from other people, regardless. I'm not naive enough to think that is the case. However, I will not prescribe to the "she should have known better" argument, in the case of rape.