Objectifying women

[Violet]

No, there's not a difference. You are suggesting that some of the blame lies with the victim for a crime perpetrated against her.

It does.

It's the same victim blaming bile I have heard before. A man who raped a woman was let off because she was wearing skinny jeans!

Well isn't that silly? The jeans didn't rape her... though they might have contributed to the raping.

Blame is not a 100% thing. It is a thing spread between all contributing factors. One does not suggest that the cheese is solely responsible for making the pizza, because the pizza is created by a number of 'factors', from the breads to the sauce to the person who made the damn thing. Try not to involke arguments about where 'justice' is not served... that doesn't read as anything other than "people are stupid" to me

You know, I don't have a problem with women using their body as they wish. I support legal prostitution, I've been to strip joints. My point about objectifying women is the standard by which woman are judged pretty. Busty tall bombshells with vacant answers to political questions. I have a problem with the idea that to be pretty you need to be model thin.

And why should we not do this? No matter how you slice it... words are meant to distinguish ideas from one another. How do you define 'woman'? Perhaps as simple as 'adult human female'? If so: you just excluded "transexuals/transgendered individuals", other species, and children. There is no way to not objectify women... or indeed anything. Women are objects, insomuch as I am aware an object is defined (a material thing that can be seen and touched)... and as such, they have already been objectified.

Or are women not objects now? Different people define "beauty" in different ways... 'tis why I believe 'abstract philosophy' (if one cares to call it such) is ridiculous at its roots (though I once thought otherwise). There is no clear-cut definition of either 'woman' or 'beautiful' or really anything (as everything is defined by the individual, regardless of how similar that definition be to other individual's definitions).

You think woman are beautiful works of art that should have the right to show what they got? I don't disagree with you. But then don't go to on to say that woman who "show what they got" are partially to blame if they are raped.

I think women can be beautiful works of art, and that "have the right" is a confusing ideal. I will, however, go on to say that women who "who what they got" are fucking partially to blame for getting fucking raped. And there is really no good argument against it, lest a single cause (this might happen at times, I will discuss those if you should like) be responsible for the entirety of the space-time 'continuum' that surrounds it.