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Objectifying women
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RE: Objectifying women
(May 20, 2010 at 11:35 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: Whole buncha psyco-babble




Quote:Essentially, the idea that me walking outside late at night, maybe with some sexy looking outfit makes me more likely to get raped is fallacious.

I'm guessing, according to your logic, the idea that me walking outside late at night, maybe with some expensive watch, gold rings and an Armani suitmakes me more likely to get robbed would also be fallacious.

Quote:Contrary to widespread belief, rape outdoors is rare. Over two thirds of all rapes occur in someone's home. 30.9% occur in the perpetrators' homes, 26.6% in the victims' homes and 10.1% in homes shared by the victim and perpetrator. 7.2% occur at parties, 7.2% in vehicles, 3.6% outdoors and 2.2% in bars.[29]

So? Listing the locations where violent crimes occur does nothing to support your arguments.

Quote:However, even if this was the case, a if that did happen to a woman, it's still not her fault. The blame lies 100% with the person who decided to rape the woman. Rape is a crime, and nothing a woman does justifies what has been done to her.

Agreed.


I can "do the right" things and I still have just as much chance as being robbed of my money as the next person. Unless that 'next person' is wearing an expensive watch, gold rings and an Armani suit. Then I'm placing my bets on the 'next person' being the victim.

Quote: I'm more likely to be raped by someone I know, in my own home.

So? What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

Quote:Shall I live in a bubble because of that risk?

No one is asking you to "live in a bubble". I'm stating if you "do the right things" you will decrease the likelihood of a crime being committed against you. Drive your Porche down into the crack-house district late at night if you wish to increase the chances of having it car-jacked from you. Would you agree with that statement?

Quote:Blaming rape victims for walking around alone as night is akin to the over-hyped stranger danger, when the truth is more children are kidnapped and murdered by people they know.

Mentioning kidnapped and murdered children is sure to get you the emotional response and sympathy vote. Congrats.

Quote:Victim Blaming is a common occurrence in the media at large. I referenced Bill O'Reilly before, because he did exactly that.. There was also another instance where a rapist told his victims, "You should have locked the doors". The media was outraged, but where is the outrage when the media does just exactly that?

Quote:When a rapist blames his victims, we’re appalled. When we do it, we’re just being “realistic,” “concerned,” “protective,” “responsible.” Why are we outraged when rapists blame their victims, but not when we blame them? Because while it’s unseemly to blatantly support the sorry excuses of a convicted rapist, we’re still invested in supporting a culture of victim-blaming that shifts the responsibility of eliminating rape away from society as a whole, and onto individual victims. When Katsnelson tells his victims to “lock their doors,” he’s shifting the responsibility for the rape off of the rapist.

Blah blah blah waa waa waa.... If the fucking rapist is basicly telling you if the doors were locked he would have moved on and if you do lock your doors he will move on, then WTF more do you want?!

You want to tell him "we shouldn't have to lock our doors! We shouldn't have to protect ourselves!"?! Of course we shouldn't have to, but this is reality. This is earth we live on. You have to if you want any measure of protection.



Quote:When the G.W. community tells victims to do the same thing, it similarly excuses the campus of taking any meaningful action against sexual assault.

So they shouldn't offer any crime prevention tips? Telling people to lock their cars, get an alarm or lose valuables it is an excuse not to take any meaningful action against vehicle break ins?


Psyco-babble.

Quote:In other words, the only people who are allowed to blame rape victims are people who don’t really, truly believe in their heart of hearts that the victim is at fault. This clever little set-up helps keep victim-blaming alive while preventing any victim-blamer from actually being identified as a bad person. It’s also inspired the use of the very popular construction, “I’m not blaming the victim, but [enter victim-blaming sentiment here].”


In other words, the only people who are allowed to deny God's existance are people who don’t really, truly believe in their heart of hearts that there is no God. This clever little set-up helps keep atheism alive while preventing any atheist from actually being identified as a bad person. It’s also inspired the use of the very popular construction, “I’m not blaming God, but [enter any 'just no evidence' sentiment here]
Did you see what I did there?


Quote:So you may think it's logical to assume that a woman walking around late at night is partly to blame. It's safe to think that, it means people have some modicum of control over what bad things happen to him, but the fact is that anyone can get raped for any reason. If a woman has a miniskirt, that does not make them partly to blame. The person who raped them is ALWAYS 100% to blame for the act that THEY perpetrated against someone else.

Agreed. always 100% at fault for the act. Is Ms. Mini-skirt patially to blame for the attack? No. Was she at all responsible? No. Was the likelihood of the crime increased because of the skirt and maybe other circumstances (alone, drunk, too trusting, etc)? Yes.


Quote:If you still think a victim is partially to blame for their rape depending on "whatever late at night, sexy clothes scenario" you can think of,...


I don't, never did. I don't blame them, I maintain they are increasing the likelihood.
Should have to, no.
Have to, yes.

Quote:...remember that the majority of rape cases are not reported.

If they are not reported, then how would you know this?

Quote:Remember that this type of victim blaming is actually used to defend rapists.

Fishin' for emo. Hope you catch a big 'un.



Quote:The most common type of victim blaming is so pervasive, it has it's own slang name: "nuts and sluts." This term refers to the common practice of discrediting the complainant by labeling them as either psychologically disturbed and lying about the harassment, or they are overly-sexual --promiscuous,
dress sexually, etc.--and deserve the harassment. (This is also a common method for discrediting rape
victims, and is a favored courtroom method of lawyers to discredit victims or minimize the effects of the
harassment--see Jenson vs. Eveleth Mines and North Country for a good case example of the "nuts and
sluts" defense.)

And this has to do with establishing if slutty/revealing attire increases the likelihood of an assault of a sexual nature or not in what way exactly ?



Quote:And lastly, if someone you knew and loved dearly, a mother, sister, friend, girlfriend was raped, would really tell them as they deal with the guilt and trauma..."Maybe you shouldn't have worn that skirt?" Think about that.

More appeals to emotion.


Quote:.....we have nothing more to say.


Again? You said you were finished many threads ago. You keep threating to walk out on me yet you're still here. Just like my last ex. Big Grin
(May 20, 2010 at 1:05 pm)binny Wrote: I haven't read this whole rape debate, but I'll give my input anyway. Forgive me if it's already been said. Rape is not a sexual crime. It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with power. I really don't think it matters what a woman looks like or what she wears. Men rape because of power, not because some hotty in a mini skirt turned them on.
Now continue.

So says the psyco-babblists. It's about animalistic reproductive instincts and triggers. If it was about power I believe you would see MUCH more man on man rape (to the delight of many here it seemsAngel). Men beating up women, that's about power.

(please spare me the links to any psyco-babblists)
(May 20, 2010 at 4:21 pm)Saerules Wrote: ...then I should think a hole would be the most vulnerable target... I mean: why bother going after a moving hole, attached to a woman who will make the sex more difficult (or annoying, if she cries)... when one might obtain a simple hole of proper size quite easily? More to the point... why bother going for a hole at all: does one not have a hand or three? Sleepy

I can answer that one for you!!

Here ya go....

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Objectifying women - by Dotard - May 19, 2010 at 9:00 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 9:05 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - May 20, 2010 at 4:21 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Shell B - May 20, 2010 at 4:31 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by Atheist_named_Christian - May 19, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 9:15 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 9:36 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 9:48 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 10:10 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 19, 2010 at 10:23 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - May 19, 2010 at 11:41 am
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - May 20, 2010 at 1:09 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by binny - May 20, 2010 at 3:47 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by binny - May 20, 2010 at 4:52 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 8, 2010 at 6:42 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 8, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 8, 2010 at 7:57 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 8, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by theVOID - July 8, 2010 at 11:28 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 9, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 9, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 9, 2010 at 11:51 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by fr0d0 - July 10, 2010 at 4:21 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 10, 2010 at 8:01 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 1:08 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 10, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 5:39 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 10, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 6:18 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 6:35 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 6:40 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 6:42 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 10, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 9:05 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 9:19 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 9:24 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 10, 2010 at 9:26 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 10:25 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 10, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 10, 2010 at 10:40 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 10, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 10, 2010 at 10:42 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 10, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 10, 2010 at 10:54 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 10, 2010 at 11:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Minimalist - July 10, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 11, 2010 at 12:53 am
RE: Objectifying women - by fr0d0 - July 11, 2010 at 4:41 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 11, 2010 at 7:45 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 10:14 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 11, 2010 at 4:04 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 11, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 11, 2010 at 8:30 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 11, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 11, 2010 at 12:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2010 at 4:29 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 4:32 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 11, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 11, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 11, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2010 at 4:46 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 11, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 12, 2010 at 4:42 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 12, 2010 at 7:53 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 12, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by chatpilot - July 11, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 11, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 11, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 11, 2010 at 7:12 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 11, 2010 at 8:29 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 11, 2010 at 9:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 11, 2010 at 9:18 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 11, 2010 at 9:21 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 12, 2010 at 4:42 am
RE: Objectifying women - by fr0d0 - July 12, 2010 at 7:33 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 12, 2010 at 4:38 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 12, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 12, 2010 at 7:47 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 13, 2010 at 8:16 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 12, 2010 at 10:10 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 13, 2010 at 9:57 am
RE: Objectifying women - by The Omnissiunt One - July 13, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 13, 2010 at 4:28 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 13, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 14, 2010 at 5:23 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Rhizomorph13 - July 13, 2010 at 4:44 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 14, 2010 at 4:04 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 14, 2010 at 7:50 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 14, 2010 at 8:19 am
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 14, 2010 at 9:51 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 14, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: Objectifying women - by fr0d0 - July 14, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 15, 2010 at 10:24 am
RE: Objectifying women - by The Omnissiunt One - July 15, 2010 at 11:50 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 15, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 15, 2010 at 2:33 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 15, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 15, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 16, 2010 at 7:38 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 7:45 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 12:44 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 16, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 16, 2010 at 12:58 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 3:56 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 17, 2010 at 3:21 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 17, 2010 at 4:04 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 10:34 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 10:50 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 4:31 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 1:20 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 16, 2010 at 1:28 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 16, 2010 at 10:56 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 16, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 17, 2010 at 11:45 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 17, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 1:48 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 16, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 4:01 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by tavarish - July 17, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 6:06 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 6:10 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 6:30 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 7:20 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 7:31 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 16, 2010 at 11:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 7:23 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 7:47 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 16, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 16, 2010 at 10:05 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 16, 2010 at 10:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 16, 2010 at 11:36 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 16, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 16, 2010 at 11:05 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 16, 2010 at 11:19 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Minimalist - July 16, 2010 at 11:55 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 17, 2010 at 12:39 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Minimalist - July 17, 2010 at 2:16 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 17, 2010 at 9:24 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Violet - July 17, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 17, 2010 at 4:02 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 17, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 4:17 pm
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RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 7:59 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 17, 2010 at 8:38 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 9:11 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 17, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 9:56 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 17, 2010 at 9:20 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 9:55 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 17, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 17, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 17, 2010 at 10:02 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 10:03 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 17, 2010 at 10:07 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 17, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by LastPoet - July 18, 2010 at 12:29 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 18, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Objectifying women - by LastPoet - July 18, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 3:50 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 6:37 am
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 5:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by LastPoet - July 18, 2010 at 7:16 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 18, 2010 at 7:22 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2010 at 7:34 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 18, 2010 at 2:30 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by The Omnissiunt One - July 18, 2010 at 3:24 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 18, 2010 at 8:43 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Objectifying women - by The Omnissiunt One - July 18, 2010 at 7:42 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 7:59 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Dotard - July 18, 2010 at 9:48 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2010 at 10:34 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 18, 2010 at 10:40 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 10:54 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 10:55 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Scented Nectar - July 18, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 11:03 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 18, 2010 at 11:42 am
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 12:57 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by LastPoet - July 18, 2010 at 11:43 am
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 1:02 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 18, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 1:18 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 18, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 18, 2010 at 1:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 18, 2010 at 2:07 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 18, 2010 at 3:25 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 1:57 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 1:38 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Eilonnwy - July 18, 2010 at 2:00 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 18, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Paul the Human - July 18, 2010 at 1:50 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 2:24 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 5:54 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 18, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 6:54 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 7:03 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 7:25 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Cego_Colher - July 18, 2010 at 6:19 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 6:29 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 6:23 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 7:16 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 7:23 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 7:25 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 18, 2010 at 8:06 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Tiberius - July 18, 2010 at 6:41 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 7:35 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 7:48 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 8:26 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 8:42 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Autumnlicious - July 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by In This Mind - July 18, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by gameslover - July 18, 2010 at 8:13 pm
RE: Objectifying women - by Godhead - July 18, 2010 at 8:39 pm
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