(May 21, 2010 at 11:47 am)Dotard Wrote: I would not say you shouldn't have a shiney red car. I'm saying don't take that shiney red car and leave it unsecured. There is a time and place for showing off your shiney red car. In a den of theives is not one of them.Raped women hardly ever wander into a den of thieves/rapists. They live in the ordinary world pretty much. One that completely accepts, condones, promotes and expects visual attractiveness.
Quote:Should I do that? No. You all know damned well it's enticing and setting up opportunity. If I do, do I shoulder partial blame for it's inevitable theft? <-- Just answer that one question please.No blame, not even partial. The most one could say was that you had a higher than average vulnerability/risk factor. Such a factor is always a grey area, one which can never be expected to be actively maintained at any specific level, much less figure out what level constitutes blame-worthiness. If such blame were routinely used regarding other crimes however, such as blaming house owners who had a break-in happen because they had expensive window trimmings visible, I'd not be pissed about it being used in rape cases. I'd still disagree with the blaming, but not as much as when it's done unfairly to cases of sexual violence only.
Quote:If I do all the right things, lock it up, set the alarm, hide the valuables, and it is stolen can you reasonably assign partial blame on me? I say no. If I lock it up, set the alarm but leave the valuables out in plain sight do I incur some responsibility for my loss?No. It's always wrong to assign any responsibility on the victim. Level of risk or vulnerability sure, but never responsibility. It's the criminal who is responsible for the actual crime. If we start blaming people for their grey area vulnerability levels, not only are everyone's levels different than each other, but it dips into the sphere of freedom of expression, since people will be punished (being blamed) for their nonharmful freedom of expression. The next step is burqas and 4 family members as chaperone/witnesses or you get blamed for it if you get raped. This is the shit religion consumes on a daily basis. The perpetuation of self-oppression through self-blame. And the money isn't a very good example, since us women already have to be worried about theft in addition to other crimes in the world. Do you have a comparable crime that usually only happens to men which needs extra safety precautions?
Quote:I thought I'd heard of everything, but humiliation fantasies about gods are a new one! If you and your paid assistant film this, you could probably make some money. I imagine that the industry is always in need of a new story line, and who knows, porn of this nature might prevent someone from actually going out and jizzing on the faces of unwilling gods.Quote:Even if a guy needs some power stuff mixed into his sex to get off, he knows full well not to do it in real life, except by consentual 'nonconsent' or whatever.Agreed. There are many other ways to satisfy that. Paid help. Call employees and fire them as you do the wife/GF. Curse God when having sex. ("Is that all you got?! You piece of shit God! Bring it on! I jizz on your face!!) I felt all powerful just typing that. I'm gonna have to try it with my regular call girl. She'll probably charge me $10 extra, but I think it will be worth it.
Quote:No, and I know this firsthand. I'm 47, old enough to now be considered an older woman. The reason I party less is the same as it is for men who are my age. Once in the more settled down, adult working life, most people party, dress trendy/sexy and date less. It's nothing to do with avoiding these activities due to learning they are dangerous.Quote:No, not exactly. Older women party and date less for the same reasons that older men party and date less. It has nothing to do with learning better how to protect oneself.Less. And when they do party it has everything to do with learning how to better protect oneself.
Quote:Doesn't one need to be aroused in order to rape?They are arroused by the nonconsentual aspect of it, and just like everyone else will often have a preference or 'type' they want to do it to. But just as we would never blame a raped child for looking or acting too childlike around a priest/other-kid-raper, one must never blame a woman for looking too feminine/stylish/sexy. To blame a person for their vulnerability level is unfair and logistically impossible anyways, since there are way too many factors both involuntary and chosen. It's not a simple case of 'look your doors, everyone'.
Are rapists aroused on power alone and they are not actually remotely aroused by the person they are actually raping whatsoever?