RE: Objectifying women
May 21, 2010 at 8:09 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2010 at 8:15 pm by tavarish.)
(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: 1. Rape is wrong, but it happens
2. Pretty girls get more attention that less attractive ones - good and bad.
3. Pretty girls should do more to safeguard against negative actions taken against them due to this extra attention.
(May 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm)Meatball Wrote: Implied points:
Pretty girls who are raped didn't do enough to safeguard themselves.
Wrong. Sometimes there are times in which such actions are unavoidable, but there are also times in which certain measures can be taken to diffuse the situation. It's everyone's responsibility to take care of themselves and shield themselves from harm. It's not a black and white issue, so stop your childish tirade.
If I leave my front door open and leave my house for a week, then come back to see everything stolen, is it my fault that everything was stolen? No, but I do share a responsibility in not being as protective as I could be. There's also the case if I have a high tech alarm, have it armed, and still come home to a cleaned out house - which illustrates that it's a multi-fucking-faceted issue.
(May 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm)Meatball Wrote: It is the responsibility of pretty girls to not get raped.
It is the responsibility of pretty girls to notice that they're receiving attention and protect themselves in case things go bad due to this. This isn't confined to rape.
(May 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm)Meatball Wrote: Pretty girls who are raped are partially to blame for failing to not get raped.
And where the hell did I say this? Get your head out of your ass. Every case is different, and nowhere did I say it was necessarily rape. I said pretty girls making more attention for themselves are more likely to be targets of sexual advance and assault, and they should realize this and safeguard the best they can. If you don't understand it, read it again. I'm not blaming the fucking victim.
(May 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm)Meatball Wrote: You are a terrible person.
Eat a dick and stop putting words in my mouth.
(May 21, 2010 at 4:00 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote:(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.
And the only people who are blaming women for their rape in this thread are men. Hm, I wonder why that is.
It's because the individuals that read it can't stop their emotionally-driven arguments enough to realize no one's blaming women for being raped.
Recognizing that people have responsibility to guard themselves is not necessarily blaming them in case something does happen. There will always be unforseen circumstances. That doesn't mean you leave your fucking guard down.
Grow up.
I mean that in the nicest way possible.
(May 21, 2010 at 3:35 pm)Scented Nectar Wrote:(May 21, 2010 at 2:17 pm)tavarish Wrote: I've noticed the only people complaining about this issue are usually the less attractive ones in the bunch. I wonder why that is.Correlation does not always mean causation. Especially in subjective matters like sexual attractiveness. All this means is that you personally don't get a hard weiner for any of the complainers. That's ok though, no man should be expected to get it hard for everyone!
Indications should logically point the opposite way though. If it is correct that attractive women get more negative attention (along with more good), then the attractive ones would have more bad attention to complain about.
The attractive ones are usually used to it enough to disregard it.
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