(May 22, 2010 at 9:15 am)tavarish Wrote: Tack, do you recognize that there's a difference between telling someone to watch out for danger, and blaming that same person when that danger happens to them? I'm not blaming the victim. I'm advising them to watch out and be alert. That's my argument, at a very basic level so everyone can be on the same page. My initial gripe was with some attractive women and how they were apparently oblivious of the clothes they left the house with, as the attention came as somewhat of a surprise to them. That's it. I'm not blaming someone when they get sexually assaulted.Even though you personally are not blaming the victim, any expectation for the victim to have to be more alert than men have to be for their whole lives, will not go over well, especially when to do so would be to avoid the very things society tells us we should do, like dress attractive.
That expectation for the victim to prevent the rape from happening is too often used as the reason to blame the victim, even if you weren't trying to do that. There is too much history of, and current situation of, blame being put on the victim of rape for not protecting herself enough. In some countries, women are in this day and age being punished with the death sentence for being a victim of rape with all blame assigned to the victim for having 'tempted' her attacker (another thank you to those abrafuckinghamic god believers). The wound is too fresh to women in the world for a statement about how it shouldn't have been a surprise. Anyways, it's not ever been concluded that sexy clothing catches the attention of potential rapists any more than a loud attention-getting voice might. Or being noticeably short. Or being noticeably fat. Or any other thing that might catch a criminal's eye. I doubt that rapists, like any other person on this planet, have their horniness restricted only to a particular style of clothing. Lots and lots of guys get horny over plain, even 'ugly', women, as proven by how many have kids. Any woman with a vagina is vulnerable to rape. Disabled wheelchairbound women get raped at a higher percentage than other women. Are they extra sexy looking?
Even if risk/vulnerability were not being used against victims to shift blame to them, in the case of rape and attractiveness, no measurements have ever been done. It would first require defining what's considered attractive by men who want to rape. Visually and clothingwise this would be difficult to do. The only thing that has ever been determined for sure about what rapists often find attractive is vulnerability in, personality weaknesses like won't fight back/scares easy/appears to lack confidence/low self esteem/won't tell, and physical ones like smaller size than attacker for ease in overpowering. I read this stuff years and years ago though and I'm completely paraphrasing, so I can't cite anything. If true, then a sexily dressed, strong looking and confident looking woman will be much safer than a plainly dressed and scared looking physically weak woman.