Objectifying women

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Even though you personally are not blaming the victim, any expectation for the victim to have to be more alert than men have to be for their whole lives, will not go over well, especially when to do so would be to avoid the very things society tells us we should do, like dress attractive.

Stop right there. No one is saying women have to be more alert then men. Men need to stay alert for danger. Being a man doesn't give you a free pass from the dangerous/criminal actions of others. I, and I bet all the other dudes here, look over their shoulders when walking down a dark street. We look around to become aware of our surroundings before using the ATM.
I've asked simple Yes or No questions here which are ignored, I say because the nay-sayers know the fucking answers to them, but I shall try again.;

If I do not look around and become aware of my surroundings, if I walk up to the dimly lit ATM not scoping it out first for danger knowing full well there are those who stalk ATMs looking for unaware naive victims, and just walk up and begin cashing out counting the money in full view of any around, then walk off, get followed and mugged. Do I or do I not hold some responsibility for the theft due to my ignorant actions of 1.)Ignoring inherent dangers. 2.)Not moving on to use an ATM in a more lit, secure place. 3.)Flashing and counting my money out in the open. It's a simple Yes or No question.

"Society" is not "telling" anyone to dress suductively, just as it's not telling me I have to use that ATM machine.

That expectation for the victim to prevent the rape from happening is too often used as the reason to blame the victim, even if you weren't trying to do that.

Do you hold an expectation for one to prevent the theft of their wallet? Do you hold a reasonable expectation for a woman to put the purse strap across the shoulders instead of dangling in one hand to twart the purse snatchers EXPECIALLY after they got a look at the wad inside? Do you berate the public service announcements that tell women "Put the strap across the shoulders"? Would you NOT tell a recent victim of purse-snatching "Put the strap across your shoulders this time."?

Anyways, it's not ever been concluded that sexy clothing catches the attention of potential rapists...

I linked a study that includes that in it's conclusions. But just like the abrafuckinghamic god believers, it was chosen to be ignored because it goes against what they are emotionally attached to and believe is so.

I say again, the reason rape exists is evolutionary and biological.

Every man has this urge to procreate in one way or another. In 99% of us it is easily controlled and kept in check. WE know what the triggers are. WE know what intices the instinct. Any man who denies this and states "I never thought of sex with her, honey" is lying just as the man who says "I never jacked-off!" Lying just as much as the guy who says they used to jack off but they quit. When you women are with your men and find yourself elbowing him in the ribs for 'checking out' some "bitch" are you catching them checking out the fat-assed ones? The wheelchair bound ones? The ones in burkas? Or are you catching then oogling the hottie in daisy dukes? Or the hottie with 1/2 the tits hanging out?

And you nay-saying men, when you are hanging with the fellas checking out the chicks are you poking your buddy telling them "OOooH!! Check out that one" and point to the buffalos at the ice cream counter? "Boy, I wouldn't mind some of that." you say as you point to the cow coming out of the all-you-can-eat buffet?

Men are VISUALLY stimulated. Look it up. 99% of porn buyers are men for a reason. Women. I'm guessing based on what I've read, are stimulated more based on emotional reasons. So it's easy to see why a majority of them cannot fathom that rape isn't an emotionally based play of power.
I think it is safe to assume 99% of those who commit rape are men. With that in mind;

Who would you really want to get your rape prevention advice from? I would advocte the most effective rape prevention advice would come from actual convicted rapists. Barring that, then from the group statisticly shown to be the committers of such.

But to each their own. Continue seeking comforting emo other than practical advice if it makes you feel better.

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If you objectify yourself you really should share the blame (albeit lesser unless intentional)with anyone else who's objectifying you and taking advantage,

Oh goddamnit, that is exactly what I and others have been saying. In the context of this discussion; Woman objectifies herself by hanging the ass and 1/2 the tits out there for all to see, another objectifys her and takes advantage, share the blame. A few posts ago I believe it was you who was saying "Never the blame", and now you are accepting the concept?

but no one should feel the right to take advantage based on objectivity, IMO.

Hellllllllooooooooo..... we have been saying that all along.