Objectifying women

[Dotard]

Dotard, what you are arguing could be really radical in a legal context.
You seem to be suggesting that the courts should view robbery/rape somewhat differently than they now do.
If I understand you correctly, a robber/rapist could offer the defence that the victim had shared responsibility. If that were accepted then a much lighter sentence would follow or indeed no sentence.
Is this your proposition?

No. How the hell am I coming across as such? I said many times "Blame" in the strictest sense is never to be applied to the victim. I agree a woman should be able to lay out on her front lawn completely naked and touching her titties if she so chooses to without concern for an assault. If I were a jurist in a rape trial and that defense was offered "She was flashing her ass at him and making cooing noises and touching herself so when she said "No" it didn't count and she asked for it." I would vehemently argue to toss that defense out as no matter what one person does, it is the self who is ultimately responsible for any actions taken. Period.

I and many many others go to titty bars and get them slapped around our faces, we get crotches rubbed up and down our legs, we get bung holes shoved within 4 inches of our noses. Rules are you can't reach up and touch them. We don't. You see the odd ball here and there that does or tries and gets tossed out. I would never say "she asked for it slapping her titties in his face". He knew the rules. I don't give a fuck what the excuse is. "She coo'd at me and lifted her skirt", "she kept giving me sultry looks" or whatever. I, we, dudes, people, know the rules.

I only advocate awareness that there are a small percentage of fucks out there who care not for the rules and will seek out victims to take from be it cars, money, watches, tits, ass. It is a good idea and prudent not to flaunt it to others. There are those who view that as a dare to take it away from you. A reasonable protective measure to safeguard your shit is to keep your money in your pocket and your tits in your shirt.

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We seem to have 100% affirmation of what women feel about this discussion. As males we're speaking from a position of power: the civilised world being heavily patriarchal. It's obvious it fucking hurts a lot. Just saying our focus maybe should be listening and understanding rather than dictating/ making proclamations.

WTF are you on about?