Objectifying women

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Sorry Sae but I was talking about " shared responsibility " as a direct response to what Dotard was bringing to the table. He set scenarios where the criminal act was aided and abetted by the victim.
An exclusive 2-way street if that is how you like to understand it.

Hmm... it certainly seems more fair to note the victim's responsibility in the matter... I would reiterate points that Dotard and Syna made then

As for the the great apple crime, I was understanding your scenario that the man wasn't in work.

With unemployment as it is, that too is a possibility (that he can be trying desperately to find work, but be unable to). But perhaps he is bussed in to a slaughterhouse illegally to be paid less than minimum wage... or perhaps minimum wage is too low to support his family... or perhaps he has a good paying job, but is neck-deep in credit card debt. I can see all of these creating a situation where a person might have to steal food (or go hungry). :S

Also, begging is sadly very common throughout the major cities of the uk and I assume somebody really desperate could beg enough for a few apples where you live.

Actually... I don't think you really can beg where I live (I don't live in a city). Anchorage certainly... but I've actually rarely see a beggar in Soldotna, Kenai, Ninilchik, or Kasilof. Last beggars I saw was last month, when a man, woman, and young daughter had a sign asking for something (help?) and were standing next to the road leading into Fred Meyer. I've yet to see anyone but myself give money to beggars, but I suppose that it must be much easier to do in big cities? :S

It goes without saying that of course I agree that it is outrageous that in the 21st century anybody should have to steal food to exist.

Indeed :S

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@ Sae;

Your eloquence at outlining my (our) reasoning on this matter is extrodinary. Clear and concise without any 'machoism' creeping into it as it seems to inadvertently do in my, and the other fellas, posts.

Machoism?

Please stop complimenting me: I'm all embarrassed trying to say things such as 'it's not really that good' and 'You guys have done much better imo' without looking silly

Perhaps you truely are 'female'.

(see? there it is again)

That's better ^_^