RE: Objectifying women
July 9, 2010 at 11:13 am
(This post was last modified: July 9, 2010 at 11:14 am by tavarish.)
(July 9, 2010 at 10:31 am)In This Mind Wrote: So, what you are saying it that it IS my responsibility to be a 'nice girl' and thus avoid being raped. Because 'nice girls' who don't wear revealing clothes, don't get raped.
Goddammit no. Stick your straw men in the garbage where they belong. Did I say anything about NOT wearing revealing clothing? Did I utter or imply anything about a "nice girl"? NO.
What I am saying is that with extra attention comes extra risk. Be more alert. Try not to get into situations where you don't have an exit strategy. If something happens, be prepared with a method of defense. You know, safeguarding - the exact thing I was talking about.
I'm not saying stay home and kick rocks. I'd appreciate it if you didn't make arguments that no one posted.
(July 9, 2010 at 10:31 am)In This Mind Wrote: A woman shouldn't do anything to attract attention to herself, because then she is contributing to her own rape. That is what you are saying. A woman has a responsibility not to attract attention to herself, otherwise she will be raped. That is what you are saying.
That is not what I am saying. I actually wrote in the first line:
"And this is exactly what people are not saying in this thread".
Do you have an issue with context?
(July 9, 2010 at 10:31 am)In This Mind Wrote: So be a 'nice girl' and it won't happen.
Not necessarily, and I never said anything like that, nor did I imply it. You're tearing down straw men at this point and arguing with yourself.
(July 9, 2010 at 10:31 am)In This Mind Wrote: So, if I'd been more alert, I wouldn't have been attacked. I shouldn't have been focusing on doing my job, I should have been focusing on assuming all men are rapists. That is what you are saying.
Oh boy. Where did I say any of this? Didn't I say that some instances are unavoidable? And didn't you say you fought him off, effectively safeguarding yourself and diffusing the situation, confirming exactly what I've been fucking saying the entire time?
If you have trouble grasping concepts, please ask specifically about certain phrases, don't just throw out canards rapid-fire and hope they stick. It's intellectually dishonest and annoying as all hell when the person you're talking to sticks words in your mouth after every sentence.
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