Objectifying women

[In This Mind]

Goddammit no. Stick your straw men in the garbage where they belong. Did I say anything about NOT wearing revealing clothing? Did I utter or imply anything about a "nice girl"? NO.

yes, you did. Here, let me quote you:

"What me and others are saying is that women who wear revealing clothing may attract attention, and should safeguard against any ill that can happen from this."

A sugarcoated way of saying "don't wear revealing clothing unless you are already on a man's arm and he can protect you.'

Heard it before.

Try not to get into situations where you don't have an exit strategy.

A sugarcoated way of saying "Don't leave your house"

Heard it before.

You are saying 'stay home and kick rocks'. Because that's the ONLY way to safeguard yourself. Stay in your house, behind a locked door, with locked and barred windows, with a good security system, a phone in one hand and a gun in the other.

If something happens, be prepared with a method of defense.

A sugarcoated way of saying "Live your life in paranoia and fear"

Heard it before.

That is not what I am saying. I actually wrote in the first line:

"And this is exactly what people are not saying in this thread".

You are trying to sugarcoat it and thus claim it isn't what you are saying, but sorry, I've had way to many years of practice seeing through that kind of bullshit.

Not necessarily, and I never said anything like that, nor did I imply it.

Yes, you did. Let me quote you:

"That doesn't mean that you can't have control over the situation should it occur. This is why safeguarding against and diffusing issues is key."

A woman has NO control over whether or not she is raped.

Oh boy. Where did I say any of this? Didn't I say that some instances are unavoidable? And didn't you say you fought him off, effectively safeguarding yourself and diffusing the situation, confirming exactly what I've been fucking saying the entire time?

Sweetie, I got LUCKY. Lucky in that he chose broad fucking daylight with other people around to attack. Had he instead struck when I was closing up the office, I'd have been raped. I got lucky in that my rapist, a 6'4" tall construction worker who outmassed me by around 150lbs and had a foot of reach on me was stupid enough to attack after calling my attention to his presence while I happened a weapon already in my hand.

And had there not been other people on the job site who heard the commotion, again, purely through luck as they were coming back to get something out of the vehicles, I'd have been raped AND quite likely killed.

So, enlighten me, on knowledgeable one. What 'safeguarding' and 'diffusing' did I actually have any control over? I didn't make my rapist a stupid inbred impulsive hick, so how exactly did I control the situation? He chose the time. He chose the place. He chose me. All the choices were his. I had absolutely no choices at all in the issue. Without choice, what control did I have?

If you have trouble grasping concepts, please ask specifically about certain phrases, don't just throw out canards rapid-fire and hope they stick. It's intellectually dishonest and annoying as all hell when the person you're talking to sticks words in your mouth after every sentence.

If you have trouble grasping this simple concept, you are part of the problem. Ready for it? Here goes:

A woman bears absolutely no responsibility or blame for being raped or attacked. The only person who has any choice in the matter, any responsibility, or any blame is the rapist. Anyone who says otherwise is degrading and objectifying women and is part of the reason 1 in 4 women are raped and the conviction rate is so low. Anyone who says otherwise is the reason many women choose not to report their rapes rather than have to deal with judgmental bastards who question their actions and thus put the responsibility onto them for not being 'nice girls'.

Do you know how many women have committed suicide because of dealing with people who made comments like 'well, if you dressed like that, what did you expect?'


Oh, and since Dotard wants details, here are a few:

He ripped my shirt open and twisted one of by breasts hard enough to leave bruises that took almost a month to fade completely. After I stabbed him with the screwdriver informed me that now he was also going to 'fuck your ass too'. Once he had me pinned in the corner, he started trying to get my pants off and kept informing me that he 'knew you wanted it, bitch'. It also was revealed that he'd raped three women prior to raping me. And the fucked up part? Due to people like you and Tav making excuses for why men rape and the role a woman's actions prior to the rape play, he had plenty of time left after his less than a year in jail to go on to rape several more.