Objectifying women

[In This Mind]

1. Are you ignoring the fact that the common sense advices do apply? I'm talking about really obvious stuff.... such as, for example, what Adrian suggested - walking home with a group of friends or taking a taxi instead of walking home alone.

Why are going ignoring the fact that this 'really obvious' stuff doesn't apply? As I've pointed out, most women are raped by people they know, and I've also cited an instance where it was a cab driver who was the rapist. This fantasy you have of a woman being grabbed off the streets to be attacked is the rarest form of rape, and even then, it's rarely random, the rapist usually stalks the target.

Why do you persist in claiming this advice is 'common sense', when it has been repeatedly proven to not be? Do you have anything, anything at all, beyond your 'gee I think it should work that way' to demonstrate the validity of your claim?

Here is a fact for you: Most convicted rapists don't even remember what their victims were wearing. That's how little clothing is a factor.

Here is the end result of your brand of thinking - http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/national/...ess/376442

There is absolutely no proof of a causal relationship between what a woman wears and her likelihood of being raped. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Why are you so desperate to place the responsibility on the woman that you are claiming there is?

Why are you perpetuating this lie?

What is your motivation for repeating this falsehood?

Are you like so many misogynists who believe a woman who likes feeling sexy is asking for abuse?

Are you ignoring the fact that blame has a negative connotation but that doesn't mean that it can't still apply?

So you admit you are blaming the victim, but now you are trying to pretend that's not a bad thing.

You remind me now of teachers who advise the victim (just as uselessly) to change their behavior to avoid bullying because it is too much work to actually do something about the bullies.

I think by suggesting things that may help or aid in keeping one safe from rape or even muggings is in no way placing partial blame on the victims of said crime. In This Mind I think you are misinterpreting the intent of the advice being given. In the case of rape the entire blame in my opinion is on the rapist and not the one being raped, and saying that if the women followed this advice it would be demonstrable by a reduction in rapes is utterly ridiculous. As someone else stated it would not, a rapist would just find another victim who is easier prey to him/her and poses a lesser threat.

Or, as one rapist already admitted, they'd just rape her anyway, they'd just hurt her worse.

You'll also find people who advise a rape victim to just 'lay there and take it' instead of fighting back. Their advice is just as valid, and just as disgustingly useless, as yours is.

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I never argued such a thing. What I argued (and what you have consistently ignored) is that the instances of rape *within the subset of women who don't take risks* will be lower. This should be quite obvious

If it is so obvious, provide some proof of it.

Do you comprehend how unfeasible it is to suggest all women travel in packs? So, on the many occasions in which it is impossible, a woman should just accept it's partially her fault she was attacked?