Objectifying women

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Dressing to avoid being cold is something you have direct control over. Since rape involves the actions and motivations of someone who isn't you, how do you have any control over it?

Sometimes you do not have direct control over it. As for controlling other people... that is called manipulation, a thing some of us are quite good at. And you have as much control over not wearing a bikini as you do over wearing those winter clothes.

Joe rapes women who wear blue. Jack rapes women who wear red. Jim rapes women who don't wear anything either red or blue. So, what exactly is a woman supposed to wear?

Which are all atypical... as I noted right in this here bold:

Clothes matter... to soldiers their apparel can be life and death. To arctic dwellers as well is clothing of utmost importance (when it comes to survival). The effect of clothing upon a situation can vary from being of minimal impact to dwarfing all. As it turns out, there is a very successful market for making people appear sexually appealing to others via clothing... and wearing such clothes can at the least be expected to typically excite more sexual attraction towards the wearer than would be common for them without. As such... it is clear that clothing has some effect upon wether a person appears sexually attractive... and it is not a very large jump from there to suggest that in at least some cases: clothing choice can at times be expected to further excite a person about to rape another (and indeed... perhaps is sometimes among the core causes of why the rape took place at all, if you will note the bold in the above quote).

It is not so much what to wear... as it is what not to wear. However... if you wear clothes that either a: make you appear as male, or b: make your sex unclear... you are likely to avoid many of the rapists that would target women.

Clothing is never the core cause of why rape took place. Ever. What is the core cause is a man's desire to degrade a woman.

And I disagree. I believe this point has been made quite clear a number of times in this forum... a few times in this thread even. Further, people are mostly concerned with themself... and what they want. A rapist that would go out specifically to find an adult female human to rape probably doesn't give a damn about how it feels for her... and is rather raping her because he enjoys fucking women.

And you are doing the same thing. You are degrading her by telling her she needs to dress like a frump to avoid attack. That's your version of using sex to degrade her. Either she conforms, or she risks attack. It's all about controlling the woman.

One almost always risks "attack". That is why we must defend what is ours. Indeed:

Possession is nine tenths of the law, and they have established that a certain planet did not, in fact, belong to me after all, because I was unable to protect it.

If dressing like a frump is necessary to avoid attack, and a woman values not being attacked more than she does not dressing like a frump: that is her prerogative. She allows risk because she enjoys a certain thing that she can only have by taking that risk. If I enjoy the welcoming feeling of my jewelry shop, with jewels laid out in the open... and I value that look more than I do not being stolen from: that is my prerogative. I allow risk because I enjoy a certain thing I can only have by taking that risk.

It is not about controlling women... it is about understanding that we are responsible for our own folly.

Here is the simple truth.

The only factor in whether or not a woman is sexually assaulted is whether or not she crosses paths with a man (or another woman) inclined to sexually assault her.

Period.

All else is deluded and wishful thinking on the parts of misogynists who objectify women and women who desperately want to believe it can't happen to them.

Luckily for me (or so I believe)... I am not so naive. You are missing out aliens that are of neither gender... androids... and non-human lifeforms on our planet. Not to mention other things I didn't think of

Evidently you have a low opinion indeed of women and their capacity to defend themselves. Just who is the one objectifying women here? Are they a bunch of helpless little princesses from a Disney movie?

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I'm done with the misogyny in this thread.

Evidently someone here hates women? Well allow me to be the ray of sunshine for us all: I women ^_^

If it was so fucking simple to avoid sexual assault, sexual assault would be a thing of the past instead of something 1 in 4 women my age is a victim of.

If 25% of the adult female population has been raped... did it ever occur to them not to party so much?

Remember kids, it's your fault you were bullied! If you only changed, it would all be alright. We can't be bothered to do something about the bullies, so you are on your own.

It is indeed your fault. You weren't threatening enough to not be bullied. Welcome to what it is to be weak