RE: Objectifying women
July 17, 2010 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2010 at 11:54 am by In This Mind.)
(July 16, 2010 at 10:56 pm)Dotard Wrote: Bullshit. No one ever said "it's your own fault".
And yes, if you do take the advice you have layed out, your risk of robbery will be lesser than the man in an armani suit driving a high end mercedes.
Look at the actual statistics. Who gets robbed more, the man in the Armani suit driving the high end Mercedes? Or the kid in jeans taking the bus?
What kind of cars get broken into most often? A Mercedes? Or a basic Honda?
Take a look at reality. It's the opposite of what you claim.
Even after quoting and calling out someone stating that they believe the victim is at fault, you still deny it. Wow. That's some heavy level denial there.
(July 17, 2010 at 12:18 am)tavarish Wrote: For someone who pledged to stay out of this thread, you sure did come back and restate some of your arguments with no real resolution in the matter. I suppose that's a positive thing, since it shows that you're persistent, but it doesn't add anything to your assertions. Emotionally charged straw men are nonetheless straw men driven by emotion.
We've backed up everything we've said.
Provide some evidence that your 'advice' actually works. Provide some evidence that this model you have of rape, the lone, sexy-clothed, woman grabbed randomly off the street is statistically likely. Support your statements with actual evidence, not just the 'I think it should be this way'.
(July 17, 2010 at 3:21 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Whether clothing actually has anything to do with or not. There are other examples that do apply... such as ones Adrian has suggested like not walking home alone but taking a taxi or going home with a group of friends instead. This doesn't mean a woman 'should' do this it is her choice... it is merely acknowledging the fact that there are ways to decrease or increase risk.
We have now pointed out, repeatedly, that according to the statistics, going home with a group of friends or taking a taxi would actually INCREASE the chances of rape, as most victims are attacked by someone they know and the grabbed off the street scenario is the rarest form of rape. I even cited a case where the rapist was driving a taxi.
Before you keep babbling about this 'decreased or increased' chance of rape, provide evidence that demonstrates your 'advice' actually decreases or increases the chance of rape.
Have you read the articles yet?