(January 7, 2016 at 10:20 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(January 7, 2016 at 10:16 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: LadyForCamus, I'm not hoping these arguments will give you faith in God even though I do believe they point to an eternal source to the universe, what I am hoping for, is that they will spark a search of self-discovery and unseen journey that will lead you to vision of the absolute.
The arguments as strong as they are, are a means, not an end. The end is to know God by God, to witness Her through Her being you and you being Her and then realizing how insignificant you are, and how significant she is.
There is many more arguments. From perpetual identity, to the nature of inheriting our actions, argument from rank, etc...just wait and see. There is many arguments a lot.
They all remind and point to the source, and to me personally prove it conclusively.
However if you ask me why I personally believe, it has nothing to do with these arguments. God is the manifest King to me. I don't follow some dead code called "morality", I follow a living guidance/light who is the light of the universe and all those in it.
Mystic,
You haven't presented one argument. All of your assertions started with "well, if God DOES exist, then..." How about, "if god doesn't exist"? Then what?
We still at this point. I thought I explained this, it's all hypothetical to show that morality is eternal. I'm going to let the wine pass. Tomorrow inshallah.Another way to pose the argument....if morality wasn't necessarily eternal, it can be imagined a hypothetical creator can create it from nothing in some hypothetical world.
