(July 15, 2017 at 3:01 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(July 15, 2017 at 9:33 am)Astonished Wrote: Problem is you can't trust groups that base their entire worldview around something completely irrational not to try and pull the same shit. If it was possible to reason with them then hey, brilliant. The problem is, it's not. And that's their own fucking fault.
I think about this a lot. I'm not so sure it IS their fault. You can say so, in the same way that we say it's a criminal's fault for being a criminal, or how it's a sexual pervert's fault for being perverted. The problem though isn't that a bunch of individuals have happened to go wrong-- it's that humanity obviously has ingrained in it the capacity for shitty shitness.
From the perspective of the rest of us, it seems like these racist, bigoted fucks are just a cancer. But this is clearly not a freak incident-- it's an evolved trait. And just like so many of us end up massively overweight because we serve our instinct for eating, or end up in a pool of our own jizz every day because our brains think internet porn is sexual contact, bigotry seems to be an instinct with a reward system that leads us to bad places-- by excluding someone else, you get a flush of pleasure that says you belong, and that temporary relief from the social fears of our primate brains has a much more direct connection to the soul than our sense of fairness.
Perhaps I misspoke; what I meant by 'it's their own fault' was that, their mental states won't allow them to even consider that they're wrong, and so they can't be reasoned with because their position isn't based on reason in the first place. Them adopting that sort of worldview prevents us from being able to talk them down from their crazy, and it's not our fault for lack of trying, it's theirs for their stubbornness where their beliefs are concerned no matter how absurd and how much the evidence fails to support them and supports the exact opposite. THAT part of the problem, is on them, or at least, not on us. We can offer the solution but them refusing to take it isn't a flaw in our position.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.