RE: Rule Change (New Staff Power)
January 12, 2016 at 11:17 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2016 at 11:18 pm by SteelCurtain.)
(January 12, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(January 12, 2016 at 10:47 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Napo, you know as well as I do that this would never happen without an overwhelming impetus from the forum-at-large. You know how many reports staff gets about members that are making the forum uncomfortable. How many of those reports we have to vote "no action" because no rules have been broken. I said it in the Staff Thread, I'll say it here: in the entire time I've been on staff, I would have given my +1 on the nuclear option to just one member. DFDM.
Of course I do. Which is exactly why I don't understand this 'new power'. Within the powers you already have, you can ban such members you mention. Where this doesn't seem to make sense to me, and undermines the existing rules, is that you are now saying you can ban members who are not breaking any rules. Just in general principle I disagree with that.
I may not disagree with banning a specific member, in a given scenario, but it's how it's done and how it's justified that makes a world of difference in my view.
You're right in that some members make this place negative and get away with shit they shouldn't. But the answer in my mind is not to say we can now ban members who aren't breaking any rules. Why not simply amend the existing ones. I can get on board with the latter, but you can see how the former seems like a complete circumvention of the supposed principles we're all encouraged to follow?
It's not lost on me that these two things would achieve the same goal, but it's for precisely this reason I don't see the point in it.
We tried amending the existing ones. It's the god of the gaps. You fill one gap, and now you've got two gaps instead of one.
I think you're taking "not breaking any rules" to an extreme that is not meant by the context. This doesn't mean "behaving."
We're taking someone who is consistently circumventing the very thing the rules are there to protect and removing them. In other words, the may not be breaking the letter of the law, but they are undeniably flaunting the spirit of the law.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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