RE: Rule Change (New Staff Power)
January 21, 2016 at 4:38 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2016 at 4:40 pm by Brian37.)
Great Drich, now can you dispense with the "poor me" false martyr" complex.
You have to know many of us are on multiple pages not just here. There are Muslims on this page we make the same arguments to. I have been on line 15 years and have debated Jews and Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus. We really don't want to hurt you or the world for that matter. We really are simply trying to get theists to think, and yes, sometimes we get very blunt about it. Morso when it comes to religiously justified bigotry, sexism, homophobia and violence.
I think most atheists here and everywhere outside this page understand there is no such thing as global utopia and there would not be a perfect world for atheists either. But that does not make you or anyone a victim. Victims are those who cannot escape their environment. Those would be the likes of Kurdish Christians, Sunnis living under Shiites, or Shiites living under Sunnis, Jews who lived under Hitler, Palestinians who live in a giant prison. Jews who have to fear rockets every day. Blacks who were slaves, Native Americans who were slaughtered and had their land stolen from them.
We may blaspheme and cuss out your claims sometimes, but you have to know and trust us, regardless of how crappy we may think any claim of any religion is, if and when you are a victim, we will stand up for you. Human rights are a given, but claims as ideas do not deserve to be scrutiny or blasphemy free.
I think if you insist on staying here, instead of complaining, consider that you are not hear to teach us, but we are here to help you understand why your logic is not as great as you would like to think it is. Instead of being paranoid, try learning. You might find we are right and we are freeing you from very bad logic.
You have to know many of us are on multiple pages not just here. There are Muslims on this page we make the same arguments to. I have been on line 15 years and have debated Jews and Muslims and Buddhists and Hindus. We really don't want to hurt you or the world for that matter. We really are simply trying to get theists to think, and yes, sometimes we get very blunt about it. Morso when it comes to religiously justified bigotry, sexism, homophobia and violence.
I think most atheists here and everywhere outside this page understand there is no such thing as global utopia and there would not be a perfect world for atheists either. But that does not make you or anyone a victim. Victims are those who cannot escape their environment. Those would be the likes of Kurdish Christians, Sunnis living under Shiites, or Shiites living under Sunnis, Jews who lived under Hitler, Palestinians who live in a giant prison. Jews who have to fear rockets every day. Blacks who were slaves, Native Americans who were slaughtered and had their land stolen from them.
We may blaspheme and cuss out your claims sometimes, but you have to know and trust us, regardless of how crappy we may think any claim of any religion is, if and when you are a victim, we will stand up for you. Human rights are a given, but claims as ideas do not deserve to be scrutiny or blasphemy free.
I think if you insist on staying here, instead of complaining, consider that you are not hear to teach us, but we are here to help you understand why your logic is not as great as you would like to think it is. Instead of being paranoid, try learning. You might find we are right and we are freeing you from very bad logic.