Trump versus Clinton?

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There are so many stories of people that are so involved they are brainwashed to go along with it. Usually they are involved in state jobs, and believe in the system.

You seem to think I wrote that no one was brainwashed.  I wrote no such thing. That renders this section of your reply irrelevant.

You must be forgetting about all the people that were pushing the system on the poor that were against it, and ended up in the camps. Remember a common theme of those that don't agree is a camp.

You're rather undermining your own argument here, given the large numbers of people who were sent to camps.

All communist countries to this day has slave labor, and reeducation camps through labor.

"Reeducation through labor" was a cynical justification cooked up by Lenin and Trotsky in 1919 to gain access to slave labor... but if you read about the history and practices of the GULags, you'll find that "education" was not given in the camps.

I still don't know why liberals support this, unless they think they will be in leadership positions enforcing the camps, and get off on it.

I don't know why you're directing this point at me, given that I'm not a liberal (in the modern sense of the word), nor do I support imprisonment for crimes of conscience.

The only point I was making is that many, if not most, citizens in most Communist countries aren't brainwashed (I do not include North Korea because I don't know enough about what's going on there).

Why that bothers you so much that you start tossing around irrelevancies is an interesting question.

Yeah I need to be careful about throwing the word liberal around, so I'll stop that. True liberals are not todays neo-liberal. The reeducation camps through labor, basically were meant to break peoples will so they learned who was in charge, thus reeducating them to the way they were desired to obey.