If free will was not real

[RozKek]

Bennyboy, stop playing fucking word games. When I refer to you with you it's just a way of communicating, there's no deeper meaning to it. There isn't a single piece of you, when I say you I just refer to what makes you what you are.

This thread is exactly ABOUT what a person is, and when you talk about "you" in the context of free will, you'd better know what you're talking about.  "It's. . . ya know. . . like just. .  . you. . . ya know?"  isn't gonna cut it.  So with all due respect. . . if you think defining terms, or pointing out conflations or equivocations, is a waste of time, then stop using words and go fuck yourself.

That's right.  I'm talking to you.

What you don't understand is it doesn't matter at all who you define yourself as or what you define yourself as. To work in your favor let's say you are your brain and your brain makes decisions, alright? Keep in mind we never said decisions and such doesn't exist, just that it isn't ultimately free. You're definitely confusing capabilities with free will. Yes, in a sense, in your imagination you were capable of taking chocolate instead of strawberry however it was only possible for you to pick the one you picked because the decision was made in your neural net (it doesn't matter if you define yourself as your neural net) and your neural net is causal. I want to add as a reminder that if the universe is indeterministic then it's partly random and there are no choices in randomness. However, this will make the previous statement irrelevant; the brain isn't quantum, the brain is governed by classical physics and classical physics is causal/deterministic so randomness is ruled out. Therefore the only possibility is that the brain is causal, it is a part of the causal chain. It is irrelevant if the universe isn't completely causal, the only effect that has in this context is that we're causal (maybe with occassional butterfly effects from randomness that are irrelevant because they don't allow free will) beings and the universe we live in isn't determined but free will still doesn't exist.

Now the importance of what I've stated is important for my question. I've asked this several times in another thread but you and the others that believe that free will exists turned a blind eye to it, I got no response. Question is, can you break the causal chain with your brain/free will, or in other words can you break the causal chain (since you define yourself as your brain) and if so, how do you break the chain?

If you're wondering why I'm a tad bit cynical it's because we had this debate last week, you suddenly stopped responding and then you repeat the same thing all over again in another thread.