(August 15, 2016 at 12:34 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:If there is stuff, there is either a finite amount or an infinite amount. A finite amount in the pre-inflationary singularity brings up many "fine tuning" arguments made by theists conveniently but poorly explained away by the Many World Metaverse theory.(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: My theological answer is a "self expression" by the extant God but the scientific answer "quantum fluctuation" works just as well. But neither fully answers "how"?
My answer comes from quantizing the infinite spacial relationships the IUS has with it's own substance, into finite representation. This is not word salad, this is the discrete meaning of "quantum": the minimum single action or measurement of an infinite.
Well, first off, your use of the phrase 'infinite' slipped past me. Even if the original universe had no center and was omnipresent in space-time, that doesn't make it infinite in comparison to current time spatial metrics. So no, infinity is not one of its attributes. Moreover, it seems plausible that an actual infinity cannot exist, so this infinitude of the early universe must only be conceptual.
Second, that's not the definition of quantum. Loosely speaking, quantum result from quantizing the finite, that the finite is organized into discrete quanta that are indivisible. It does sound like word salad to me, but please continue.
(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: The substance of the IUS exists in 3 equal relationships: All around itself equally in all directions, at the center of itself everywhere and as a field in tension equilibrium. This quantizes into a sphere, a point of real substance (not a place holder point) in the center of the sphere, and a tetrahedron (minimum geometric tensor of 3d space) between them.
Why would it quantize into essentially two space objects and a tetrahedron? This step doesn't seem to follow from mere quantization of the plenury that was the early universe. How is this a better prediction of the early universe than standard inflationary cosmology?
(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: If a God being expressed itself, those are the only spatial relationships to be expressed..... if the IUS just up and one day quantum fluctuated, those are the only spacial relationships to be expressed.
If I follow you, you're suggesting that this hypothetical evolution of the early universe is identical to that which would be the product of a god being expressing itself. I fail to see where you get that this is the necessary consequence of a god expressing itself. Feel free to continue anyway. I'll do my best to make sense of it.
(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Follow so far?
Vaguely. I'll know better from your next step.
I am simply following the thought experiment of equal opposite reaction in the contraction of an infinite, homogeneous substance. Not the expansion of a finite amount of it. And when I followed the logic, it predicted universal phenomena up and down scale. Even the origin of Life in DNA form.
It quantizes that way because that's how it actually exists, poly-locally. No matter where you go in the IUS you are at a real center point. No matter what point you choose, the rest of the substance exists as a spherical wave-form equally all around you in all directions. There is no gravitational differentiation, there is equal gravitational tension in all 3d spatial directions. There is no other distinction. It is extremely simple.
My thought on why I say "it was a God expressing itself" is because the resulting form and function of universal order are the requirements for embodied individuation and experience of consciousness as a single being. It was not intelligent design but geometric and biological.
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder