(August 31, 2010 at 10:48 pm)theVOID Wrote: I wouldn't be so quick to claim that, there are primate remains that have been found from 58 Million BCE, and Evolutionary developmental evidence (the time necessary for the evolutionary process to take the 58Mil BCE primates from the closest known mammalian pre-extinction based on the number of mutations and viral coding doesn't seem long enough, even considering Adaptive radiation being highly effective in newly predator-free environments, it is actually more likely that there was a genuine primate ancestor before 65Mil BCE), and fossil evidence (bone structure of later primates as opposed to the currently identified pre-primates) to suggest that they may have been around for as long as 75 Million BCE.
Just in case you're interested
Perhaps, though I did mention that the very very very earliest proto-primates could have been around prior to the 65m/y extinction event -that that arguement could have been made -, but the websites I drummed up essentially compared them to shrews and squirrels. They were small, dumb, and about as far from the primates we know of today as possible while still being considered primates.
My focus was more toward the idea that monkeys, primates, and most certainly humans weren't around during that time and even though we have more in common with primates than other life forms, it doesn't connect those three kinds of creatures to the pre-extinction dinosaurs any more than connecting us to ancestors that evolved into humans prior to the evolution of primates.
After all, the first proto-mammals were around apparently over 200 or so million years prior to primates.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
