RE: Strong and Weak Arguments
January 9, 2017 at 5:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2017 at 6:46 pm by Vast Vision.)
I cannot think of a weak atheistic argument spontaneously; I might be enlightened.
What is atheism? The mere absence of belief in a world view for which there is no valid proof whatsoever. What theists believe to be a testament for the validity of their belief, has not to be one. I have never seen Atheists making statements theists often attribute to them.
How is this a weak argument based on the nature of the god probably most of us are thinking of? When the god who is said to be a merciful, all-loving and all-forgiving planer, causes such a massive amount of suffering in the world and is willing to bring down endless agony to those with nothing but a honest fallacy - the inability to recognize him in the creation, as the mind engineered by god himself would not allow so.
Theistic response however is weak. As they say that god is not within the boundaries of logic and works in a way not understandable for humans, they admit, that their belief is irrational, since gods very actions are claimed to be irrational ("not bound by logic").
The absence of a plausible explanation at this moment is no proof for the opposite view. Magic can never be a good answer. "I cannot comprehend how this works, it must be the work of a wizard!"
What is atheism? The mere absence of belief in a world view for which there is no valid proof whatsoever. What theists believe to be a testament for the validity of their belief, has not to be one. I have never seen Atheists making statements theists often attribute to them.
(January 1, 2017 at 5:10 am)paulpabl Wrote: There's so much evil/pain/death in the world therefore no god. Probably the worst argument for atheism I've heard.
How is this a weak argument based on the nature of the god probably most of us are thinking of? When the god who is said to be a merciful, all-loving and all-forgiving planer, causes such a massive amount of suffering in the world and is willing to bring down endless agony to those with nothing but a honest fallacy - the inability to recognize him in the creation, as the mind engineered by god himself would not allow so.
Theistic response however is weak. As they say that god is not within the boundaries of logic and works in a way not understandable for humans, they admit, that their belief is irrational, since gods very actions are claimed to be irrational ("not bound by logic").
(January 9, 2017 at 5:53 pm)Alex K Wrote: Strongest against: Fine tuning, contrary to what some deniers say, several physical constants and combinations thereof cannot be changed by more than a tiny fraction without wreaking havoc on our universe's ability to support life.
The absence of a plausible explanation at this moment is no proof for the opposite view. Magic can never be a good answer. "I cannot comprehend how this works, it must be the work of a wizard!"