(January 1, 2017 at 8:54 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote:(January 1, 2017 at 8:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: Dude.... that's one messed up story.Yea thats basicly the result I get from atheists.
I liked the vivid detail of the guy whose eyes turned black and you felt something come over you. Awesome! You should write a movie script! [/sarcasm]
Honestly, your story is so so so similar to a bunch of others I've heard. It even has the touch of BS in that "exorcism". Maybe, it happened as you relate... but most likely not. If you are relating what you think you saw, in good faith, then you may have been deceived. You wouldn't be the first, you shan't be the last.
Or the poor guy was having some sort of a seizure and the adults on the scene failed to provide proper care - call an ambulance!
It's interesting to note that you mention a christian upbringing, a christian mindset.... but you don't mention the exact christian denomination... I mean, you say you're not from the Westboro Baptist - good for you! - but which one exactly? From the looks of it, some evangelical, bible-intensive, demon-possession-believing variant.... which could be most of the US-based ones.
Alas, I don't have any story to share with you. Being in Southern Europe, the dominant belief system is Catholic and those have become tame "lately" - people mostly don't care about other persons' beliefs.
That "black mass" you mention? People around here would just live and let live. What's the problem with purchasing pig's hearts at the butcher's?
Sure, people aren't particularly fond when someone decides to damage a work of art... remember this beautiful "restoration" work:
Yay!!
I'm "normal"!!!!
(January 1, 2017 at 8:54 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: You guys asked so I answered. As for denomination, I'm from a kinda non-conformist sect called "non-denominational" Pretty much we would rather take our answers from the Bible then someone else.
Why the Bible?
Why not some other book? What's special about the Bible?
And why do you think what you think about the Bible?
(January 1, 2017 at 8:54 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: My parents don't get into demonology, and they never have. My beliefs are my own. My parents taught me about Christianity and gave me the choice to follow it or not. I made my own conscious choice on the facts I have. And for all my trials my faith has only been reinforced.
Chronologically, you got convinced by your parents that the christian belief has some truth to it.
Crap that happened to you then reinforced that belief...
The Facts are that all you've witnessed was just people. People doing the crazy things that people do. Maybe you got "lucky" and managed to peek into some of the crazier things, but all I see in your story is people. YOU claim there's a "holy spirit" working in you, but I see people and your own belief-induced sense of righteousness.
It was probably people like you that kick-started many of the worst "christian actions"...
(January 1, 2017 at 8:54 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: As for being deceived. The guy was my friend before the youth group his life changed drastically that day. Beforehand he had major anger management issues. I mean the kind where he would punch someone if they looked at him the wrong way.
Being your friend means nothing.
On the other hand, I told you he may have just suffered some seizure - which, given the company and, I guess, the underlying mental state, could have gotten interpreted as a divine intervention of some sort and he then endeavored to correct that past "angry" behavior.
Don't ever underestimate the power of suggestion.